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Old 08-29-2006, 11:55 PM
IHateATMFees IHateATMFees is offline
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Default JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

UTG read was 38%/13%/0.90%, typical LAG but was tentative post flop usually.

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Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero 3-bets</font>, 6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG caps</font>, hero calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 7.75BB

Looking back at this, I tend to think that I needed to press the action on all three streets. Not quite sure my thinking at the time, but I believe I was tentative because of his table image of slowing down after the flop?
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:03 AM
cold_cash cold_cash is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

You must find a raise somewhere.

I'd do it on the flop, because if he has overcards the turn will likely go check/call.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:05 AM
GrandmaStabone GrandmaStabone is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

cap the flop

raise the turn
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:05 AM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

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UTG read was 38%/13%/0.90%, typical LAG but was tentative post flop usually.

Looking back at this, I tend to think that I needed to press the action on all three streets. Not quite sure my thinking at the time, but I believe I was tentative because of his table image of slowing down after the flop?

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Is there a question there? What had you seen him cap pre-flop with? What had villain done when people played back at him? If you think he is full of crap but will fold to a raise then calling down is fine except for the river. The next time an aggro villain bets every streat and checks the river, bet into him.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

I don't like it.

I raise the flop. If it's 3-bet, I'll go into call-down mode.

The way you played it, I'd have bet the river when checked to.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

i like this line. but bet the river when he checks to you.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:22 AM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

genltemen (and secretive ladies),

villain's pfr is 13% (not very LAGgy, btw) and he is utg. i don't think his capping range is much larger than aa/kk/qq/jj/ak. thus, we are ahead of 16 hands that have 6 outs against us, tied with 1 hand, and behind 18 hands that we have 2 outs against. semi-ahead/way behind.

i don't think there's much to be gained by raising anywhere. raising just lets AK off the hook while getting us 3bet by a bigger PP.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:54 AM
Sarge85 Sarge85 is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

Pop The flop

Insta bet the river when checked to on the river.

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Old 08-30-2006, 01:04 AM
Xhad Xhad is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

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villain's pfr is 13% (not very LAGgy, btw) and he is utg.

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Seriously, my pfr is 13 and my range here is QQ+, AKs, IF that.

I like the flop and turn calls but when he checks the river this is Ax the vast majority of the time, and he will probably call hoping to chop.
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Do I need to keep raising?

A 13% preflop raise percentage is only 4 hands?
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