PS $22 - I'm not sure what to do...

[mornelth]

PS $22, 750 or so started, down to 360. Far away from money.

Reads : UTG is hyper-loose and a donk. His limp means very little to me, 100 chips of dead money. I really doubt he's coming along for the ride. No real reads on CO.

What is USUALLY a quick fold for me now made me stop and think - "Should I call this?"


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 (t3305)
MP3 (t565)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t700)</font>
Button (t1200)
SB (t1260)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t3834)</font>
UTG (t2920)
UTG+1 (t1495)
MP1 (t8728)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t700 (All-in)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero...

[bigballz]

wtf no

[wpr101]

Mehhh I can't see you being that ahead of his range. I would probably wait here. It depends how bad he is I guess since you are getting some odds on your call.

But overall I think waiting is best here.

[mornelth]

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wtf no

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Yes, that's my immediate reaction too.

I'm interested in hearing some ranges for CO. I actually think it's an even-money call, at least at the $20 level...

[sunrise]

u have to call 600 into 950, and you have to hope that UTG didn't wake up with a monster and push.

King Crab is good for dinner....not for poker :-)

[Colombo]

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 34.5972 % 33.93% 00.67% { Ks3s }
Hand 2: 65.4028 % 64.73% 00.67% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KQo }


very loose range. You aren't getting odds, UTG could have limped a monster. Easiest fold ever.

[mornelth]

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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 34.5972 % 33.93% 00.67% { Ks3s }
Hand 2: 65.4028 % 64.73% 00.67% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KQo }

very loose range. You aren't getting odds, UTG could have limped a monster. Easiest fold ever.

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I did call. He turned over 85o. He didn't suck out.

So I'm wondering whether it was just dumb luck - or do people really get desperate and start pushnig any 2 with a short stack...

[wpr101]

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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 34.5972 % 33.93% 00.67% { Ks3s }
Hand 2: 65.4028 % 64.73% 00.67% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KQo }

very loose range. You aren't getting odds, UTG could have limped a monster. Easiest fold ever.

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I did call. He turned over 85o. He didn't suck out.

So I'm wondering whether it was just dumb luck - or do people really get desperate and start pushnig any 2 with a short stack...

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What I was implying before was that the decision is very read dependent. It's hard for others to say. In a tunnel it's a fold; with a read it might be a call?

[mornelth]

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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 34.5972 % 33.93% 00.67% { Ks3s }
Hand 2: 65.4028 % 64.73% 00.67% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KQo }

very loose range. You aren't getting odds, UTG could have limped a monster. Easiest fold ever.

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I did call. He turned over 85o. He didn't suck out.

So I'm wondering whether it was just dumb luck - or do people really get desperate and start pushnig any 2 with a short stack...

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What I was implying before was that the decision is very read dependent. It's hard for others to say. In a tunnel it's a fold; with a read it might be a call?

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I have a feeling that at this level people shove any two with M=5, limpers or not... I'm gonna make some crazy calls just to see what people shove...

[tedtodd]

I suppose it's correct if you truly think he is random, probably a rare situation though:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 54.0550 % 52.07% 01.98% { Ks3s }
Hand 2: 45.9450 % 43.96% 01.98% { random }


Against top 50% of hands- marginal:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 45.1373 % 42.87% 02.27% { Ks3s }
Hand 2: 54.8627 % 52.59% 02.27% { 33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }

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I only see this as being slightly worthwhile if the villian is on super monkey tilt, or if you can put him on any 2 cards and there's some extra chips on the table.