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08-27-2006, 04:43 PM
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i just folded top two for the first time ever
2/4 i cover
I raise utg with AQo, bb (67/15, .49 aggression) calls HU 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($32); check, hero bets $24, call Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($80); check, $60, call A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($200); villain pushes all-in quite quickly $231.40 and I mucked ez fold? 
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#4
08-27-2006, 04:49 PM
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Re: i just folded top two for the first time ever
This isn't easy for me anyway. Couldn't this easily be AJ/A7/QJ from a 67/15 donk?
Also when they push like this quickly when the flush hits I get suspicious. First, would this type of dude really push here with a flush? Second, usually a 67/15 will pause for a moment when his flush hits, as the "oh my god, I hit my flush!" penetrates his thick skull. But anyway, to me it's close. Getting 2:1 I probably talk myself into a call here. I am calling too much lately though.
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#5
08-27-2006, 04:54 PM
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Re: i just folded top two for the first time ever
i also call too much, i am trying to make thinner folds. however this could have disasterous results [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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#6
08-27-2006, 05:02 PM
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Re: i just folded top two for the first time ever
ugh, I probably fold but I think its VERY close. And its not close between flush and two pair. Its between air and flush.
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#7
08-27-2006, 05:11 PM
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Re: i just folded top two for the first time ever
rofl at folding top two for the first time ever
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#8
08-27-2006, 05:24 PM
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Re: i just folded top two for the first time ever
agreed, i used to play hold em with some omaha enthusiasts who loved doing XXXX like this... i don't think that's as easy of a fold as some people are saying, oh well, still probably the right move... this is a real good example of why i'd much rather play NL live, you'd have a much better idea whether he was just messing around if you could look at his face...
had a hand pretty similar to this a while ago in a live game where i folded two pair: posted the BB from mid position and got 89, flop comes down 289, i bet, turn is a Q, i bet, and then river is a 10, I check and my opponent quickly pushes for about 1.5 times the pot... i look at him square in the face and know that he somehow stuck around with a jack, i fold face up, and his face turns white... he said he had AQ and thought i was just messing around (I'm known as a pretty aggressive player) but i later found out he had QJ, it stings makin plays like this but sometimes that's what you gotta do
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#9
08-27-2006, 05:28 PM
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Re: i just folded top two for the first time ever
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.49 aggression [/ QUOTE ] super easy fold.
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#10
08-27-2006, 05:38 PM
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Re: i just folded top two for the first time ever
so what hand are you putting the other guy on exactly? he can't know that hero has a huge hand, so is he just gambling on the fact that hero has a hand big enough to call an all in when there is an obvious flush on board? obviously if he has a flush he wants a call from any two pair and any ace, so why wouldn't he just value bet if he actually had it? if the guy is a good player he's going to realize that a $120-$150 value bet will be called enough times to have a much higher +E.V. then the few times he gets an all-in call for a little under twice the same value bet... i do have a couple ideas about why he might've made the all in bet WITH THE FLUSH, but i'm curious to hear your ideas on the matter
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