Raise this flop or wait

[silkyslim]

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Raise to protect your hand against the flush draw.

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this won't be accomplished here. do you see why?

[Shillx]

Raise it.

Agree.

You aren't guaranteed that BB leads the turn

This is the main reason to raise the flop IMO.

UTG and MP1 might be willing to call one more SB on the flop, but not a BB on the turn.

Meh you don't really want people calling lots of bets in this hand. It is useful when they are drawing thin or dead with something like T9 and you hold a set, but they have a lot of collective equity against TPTK. That said, I don't think that anything reasonable is folding here no matter when you decide to raise. In a perfect world, you would always get bet into on the turn and then you can figure out what the best play is. If you *knew* that the flop bettor would lead, you would almost surely wait.

You have no way to protect your hand against a flush draw, so raise while your equity is good.

True, but your equity will be better on safe turn cards so in that respect it is better to wait. The problem is that you don't know if you can get a raise in on 4th. There are a ton of scenarios where everyone checks to you. Namely when the flop bettor checks his missed draw, checks his top pair when a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] comes or when something scary like a A-Q hits.

The fact that we don't have a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] makes raising now somewhat less attractive, but I would still do it. It is a no brainer raise with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] since we can jam both now and on a blank turn. If a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] pops on the turn, we can slow down and try to hit the flush. By waiting with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], we will have to just call a bet on 4th since we have to call all bets coming back. It just misses too much value to slowplay the flop. Without the redraw, we just fold if someone 3 pops the turn.