help with Kings in a 4/180

[dcviperboy]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 (t1600)
MP1 (t1380)
Hero (t1380)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1380)
SB (t1160)
BB (t4110)
UTG (t2440)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t80</font>, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, BB calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60.

Flop: (t250) 7, J, 9 [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>

wkramer: bets 80
agdfanatic: raises 80 to 160
dcviperboy: raises 240 to 400
wkramer: folds
wkramer is sitting out
agdfanatic: raises 500 to 900


Is this a push with an overpair?

[bestcellar]

this is tough. It really comes down to your read of this player. If it's a good player, you're probably in trouble, what he's representing is either better than TPTK (ie overpair/set) or it's huge draw. If it's a mediocre to bad player, I go broke.

[dcviperboy]

the tourney had just started. No read except for one guy who was really loose and had played every hand.

I had assumed he had AJ but when he re-re-raised me i thought i was beat, just couldnt drop em.

[bestcellar]

oh yeah, that's right, it's a 4/180...

in that case I probably go busto despite the action and fire another one up in 10 minutes

[mornelth]

Sigh...

Raise more PF. Make T8 and J9 and such pay for the chance to flop big. Cut down their implied odds. Raise to 160-200 PF and whoever hit this flop AND DOESN'T have a set - made a mistake Preflop.

I'm thinking it's a straight or 2p, because the combo draw would most likely push this at some point... I fold to the 4-bet.

[bestcellar]

there's really no problem with just a 4xbb raise here.

[mornelth]

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there's really no problem with just a 4xbb raise here.

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I like a bigger raise to cut down the implied pot odds of all of the "pretty" hands that call us.

[NoahSD]

Your flop 3-bet is really small. Why's your 3-bet on the flop so tiny? I'd just push.

[dcviperboy]

original bet was 80, MP1 made it 160 to go, 3x160 = 480, I raised to 400. At this point I still assumed I had the best hand, and wanted to keep one perosn in the hand. Noah, you are saying open push with 10/20 blinds on the flop when the pot is only (250 + 80 + 160 = )500 and you say push 1390 in?

[TexRef]

I agree with raising more preflop, especially since you have one limper -- he is probably coming along regardless. I'd raise to 125 or so.

I'm pushing this reraise. It's early and it's a $4. Yeah -- he might have flopped two pair or the straight, but early on players are raising with a ton of hands. He likely has a J and a straight draw or two clubs.

I push and pray... If it doesn't work out, on to the next tourney [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]