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Old 08-25-2006, 06:36 PM
Basil Basil is offline
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Default Would you slow down? KJs

Villain is 70/10/1.8 and always bet out like this no matter what flops.

Ok, so after the turn I realize he has a 7, but 7T? no way. I'm still good. I was tempted to raise the river too but chickened out.


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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.


Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.5SB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, UTG folds, CO calls, Hero caps, BB calls, CO calls.


Turn: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.25BB, 3 players)
BB bets, CO calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, CO folds, Hero caps, BB calls.


River: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (19.25BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.


Results:
Final pot: 21.25BB
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Would you slow down? KJs

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I was tempted to raise the river too but chickened out.

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That wouldn't be very bright. I don't even cap the turn against non-maniacs, especially with the CO calling in between. The villain is playing 70% of his hands. 44, 77, 74s and 7T are all possible.

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Old 08-25-2006, 06:52 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: Would you slow down? KJs

Capping the flop is no good here.

you said villain likes to donk lots of flops, which implies that he does this a lot with air. In this hand he check/threballed the flop, which implies a big made hand. you've got zero chance of winning the pot right out, and a very slim shot at getting a free card on the turn. Therefore you have no incentive to put any more bets in until you make your hand.

turn is fine.

with an appropriate read I'd raise/call the river. this may be one of those spots.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Would you slow down? KJs

I'm not raising the river after the way the flop and turn came down.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:17 PM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: Would you slow down? KJs

you don't think villain pays off 7x?

do you think he check/calls 7x?

I think he'll bet/raise it quite a lot, as that tends to be the mentality of scattershooters: play a lot of hands, and then pedal to the metal when we connect more than just a little.

I don't have the read though, so I could be wrong.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Would you slow down? KJs

*grunch*
Villain didn’t bet out on flop, he check-3bet. He’s hit a set or maybe even a FH on the flop. I’ve lost a lot to maniacs who play things like 74 suited. You can’t fold, but after the flop bet you shouldn’t be raising.
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