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#12
08-25-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: ATs real short facing interesting raise.
yeah, i guess your post just suggested that JTs was like infinitely stronger ("turbopush" etc). that sort of jiveturkey talk (zomg resteal with 34s yo!!!) gets thrown around a lot on these boards and it's misleading i think
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#13
08-25-2006, 11:04 AM
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Re: ATs real short facing interesting raise.
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yeah, i guess your post just suggested that JTs was like infinitely stronger ("turbopush" etc). that sort of jiveturkey talk (zomg resteal with 34s yo!!!) gets thrown around a lot on these boards and it's misleading i think [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's not stronger - but it is certainly dominated a lot less often by raiser's range...
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#14
08-25-2006, 11:18 AM
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Re: ATs real short facing interesting raise.
J10 is better cuz you have less a chance of being dominated if he has a hand like AK or AK. But he is playing like he has AA-KK in which case youre screwed. At least A-10 you can have 3 outs on the KK FWIW
fold unless you really just dont care and that player has been loose with big raises
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#15
08-25-2006, 11:25 AM
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Re: ATs real short facing interesting raise.
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he must be ahead of OR's range [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this is true at all in this case - I think you can make a good argument for pushing here but I think you are almost certainly behind his range
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#16
08-25-2006, 11:32 AM
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Re: ATs real short facing interesting raise.
I used to think this way, but these days I'm wondering if I won't get a BIGGER edge by waiting an orbit or two, and if I do not pick up a big hand - I may open push with mediocre hand that will get called by a range against which I will have a lot more equity than ATs in this spot?
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#18
08-25-2006, 01:03 PM
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Re: ATs real short facing interesting raise.
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[ QUOTE ] 5xBB raise when he has 10xBB total == STROOOOOOOOONG fold [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. [/ QUOTE ] you don't think a strong player will do this with any two they were going to push for this very reason? My initial reaction was that this meant strong too, but then I thought about it a bit and had no time bank and ended up shoving.
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#19
08-25-2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: ATs real short facing interesting raise.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 5xBB raise when he has 10xBB total == STROOOOOOOOONG fold [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. [/ QUOTE ] you don't think a strong player will do this with any two they were going to push for this very reason? My initial reaction was that this meant strong too, but then I thought about it a bit and had no time bank and ended up shoving. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think a weak or strong player can do this with a hand that he doesn't want floated or restolen, or as a way of generating further FE? Why put in half your stack here with QQ-AA?
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