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Old 01-24-2006, 02:26 PM
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Default 2/4: KK Bet/Fold On River

I had been very aggressive thus far, playing many hands and showing down some questionable ones.

Do you prefer a river check/call here as opposed to bet/fold? I feel like the former will have me missing out on some value bets in the long run.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter

MP ($540)
CO ($1017.30)
Button ($398)
SB ($395.60)
Hero ($842.21)
UTG ($456.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($30) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($60) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25.

River: ($110) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $200</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $375
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Old 01-24-2006, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KK Bet/Fold On River

You need to fix that hand history.
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Old 01-24-2006, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KK Bet/Fold On River

Thanks. Fixed it.
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KK Bet/Fold On River

Why didnt you raise the turn?
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Old 01-24-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KK Bet/Fold On River

Very rarely do people 3-barrel bluff like that, so I def. prefer to bet-fold here. Queens and such will call the 65.

The only problem is that a good player will see your bet excactly for what it is, a blocking bet. I suspect you don't encounter enough of them for that to be a problem though.

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Old 01-24-2006, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KK Bet/Fold On River

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Why didnt you raise the turn?

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My reason (even though I hate it, now that I think about it) is that I figured I had 6 clean outs to win the hand even if I were behind. Therefore, I didn't raise the turn, because I didn't want to get reraised and forced to fold. Only problem with this is that it is silly to consider the 4 J's clean outs and even a K won't win me the pot all the time.

OK, so let's say I raise the turn to 75 or 80. Do you shut down completely to a call? Do you go to the felt if a K hits on the river?
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:12 PM
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The only problem is that a good player will see your bet excactly for what it is, a blocking bet.

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I don't think this board lends well to a good player sensing a blocking bet and raising the river. Especially with the runner-runner flush that just hit. I can't even see Villain raising with a naked A here, though I suppose that depends on the player.
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KK Bet/Fold On River

RR PF.

Check/fold flop.
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:23 PM
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RR PF.

Check/fold flop.

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I really don't like this line very much at all. First off, while my standard play here is to RR pre-flop, I don't think you can say that this should always be done. About 1/5 times, I will smooth call the raise PF looking to trap on an Ace-less flop.

Second, after a RR PF, you won't even fire a c-bet? Seems like you're just asking someone to bet you off your hand here. If I take the RR PF line, I would fire a c-bet and shutdown to a call and fold to a raise.
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:28 PM
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RR PF.

As played, check/fold flop.

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