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Old 08-23-2006, 11:53 AM
Nottom Nottom is offline
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Default $20 MTT - Approaching FT but getting no cards (long HH)

So I made a prety deep run into last night's 1:00 AM $20+2. After getting some good breaks and bouncing around I eventually find myself near the bottom after losing a coin flip.

My table was pretty condusive to stealing (or at least had been while I had chips) but I think some of the players were looking to take a stand against the most aggressive player at the table (me) and I felt I still had enouhg ships left that I didn't want to push with nothing, and yet not enough to really raise any less.

Anyway, I thought I would post the end of the tourney to see if anyone thinks I missed some good opportunities to pick up chips or if I jumped the gun with my push.

I'll post the HH in a reply to this post, with some thoughts about it here.

Some Player notes:
PSU was the main target for steals since chat indicated that making it this deep was huge for him. He was playing cautiously and my read was that he wasn't calling without a pair or big A.

Shakedown had been hanging on as a shortest stack for quite a while, maybe he was card dead but I was relentlessly raising his blinds when I had chips and he only stood up to me when he had TT.

These are the 2 players to my left and thus the prime steal targets

The other players at the table seemed pretty typical if not a little on the tight side which should be good for me.
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: $20 MTT - Approaching FT but getting no cards (long HH)

*********** # 270 **************
PokerStars Game #6020527983: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:53:09 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (95084 in chips)
Seat 3: Vster (54300 in chips)
Seat 4: F|yingAces (52157 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (53781 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (37402 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (33884 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (26578 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts the ante 200
F|yingAces: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts small blind 2000
Shakedown63: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [Ks 2h]
psufans2: folds
Vster: folds
F|yingAces: folds
nottom said, "thought i was ok when you didn't have an A [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]"
Vster said, "out east in plum"
Rickydee4: folds
Dominator199: folds
nottom: raises 29684 to 33684 and is all-in
Shakedown63: folds
Vster said, "you?"
psufans2 said, "lol tom"
nottom collected 9400 from pot
nottom: doesn't show hand
king1305 [observer] said, "know where that is"
king1305 [observer] said, "Cal"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9400 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Vster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: F|yingAces folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nottom (small blind) collected (9400)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 271 **************
PokerStars Game #6020529399: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:53:36 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (94884 in chips)
Seat 3: Vster (54100 in chips)
Seat 4: F|yingAces (51957 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (53581 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (37202 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (39084 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (22378 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts the ante 200
F|yingAces: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts small blind 2000
psufans2: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [Ah 4s]
king1305 [observer] said, "ifornia"
sc00tor [observer] said, "oh boy"
Vster: folds
king1305 [observer] said, "like Cal U"
F|yingAces: raises 12000 to 16000
Rickydee4: raises 37381 to 53381 and is all-in
Dominator199: folds
nottom: folds
Shakedown63: folds
psufans2: folds
F|yingAces: calls 35757 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Js Kd 7c]
Vster said, "never visited, went to Clarion many years ago"
*** TURN *** [Js Kd 7c] [Qs]
psufans2 said, "wow"
*** RIVER *** [Js Kd 7c Qs] [8h]
psufans2 said, "nh"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
F|yingAces: shows [Ad Ks] (a pair of Kings)
Rickydee4: shows [Qd Qc] (three of a kind, Queens)
Rickydee4 collected 110914 from pot
king1305 [observer] said, "nh ricky"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 110914 | Rake 0
Board [Js Kd 7c Qs 8h]
Seat 2: psufans2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Vster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: F|yingAces showed [Ad Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: Rickydee4 showed [Qd Qc] and won (110914) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: Dominator199 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nottom (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 272 **************
PokerStars Game #6020531581: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:54:18 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (90684 in chips)
Seat 3: Vster (53900 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (112538 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (37002 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (38884 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (20178 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
psufans2: posts small blind 2000
Vster: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [3s 4c]
nottom said, "i was expecting a T on the river"
psufans2 said, "lol he was short earlier sitting out"
Rickydee4: folds
Dominator199: folds
nottom: folds
sc00tor [observer] said, "GO RICKY!"
king1305 [observer] said, "my bad scoot"
Shakedown63: raises 15978 to 19978 and is all-in
psufans2: folds
Vster: folds
sc00tor [observer] said, "its alright!"
Rickydee4 said, "ty"
Shakedown63 collected 11200 from pot
Shakedown63: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11200 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Vster (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Rickydee4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nottom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (button) collected (11200)

*********** # 273 **************
PokerStars Game #6020532960: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:54:44 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (88484 in chips)
Seat 3: Vster (49700 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (112338 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (36802 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (38684 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (27178 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts small blind 2000
Rickydee4: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [3d Jh]
Dominator199: folds
nottom: folds
king1305 [observer] said, "V...i go to school at SVC, not too far away from plum"
Shakedown63: folds
psufans2: raises 12000 to 16000
Vster: folds
Rickydee4: folds
psufans2 collected 11200 from pot
psufans2: shows [Jd Js] (a pair of Jacks)
Vster said, "SVC?"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11200 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 (button) collected (11200)
Seat 3: Vster (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Dominator199 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nottom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 274 **************
PokerStars Game #6020534479: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:55:13 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (95484 in chips)
Seat 3: Vster (47500 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (108138 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (36602 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (38484 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (26978 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts small blind 2000
Dominator199: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [Kc 9s]
king1305 [observer] said, "saint vincent"
king1305 [observer] said, "college"
nottom: folds
Shakedown63: folds
psufans2: folds
Vster: folds
Rickydee4: calls 2000
Dominator199: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c 9d 7s]
Rickydee4: bets 8000
king1305 [observer] said, "go to school with a lot of plum people"
Dominator199: folds
Vster said, "oh, used to date a girl in Latrobe many years ago"
Rickydee4 collected 9200 from pot
Rickydee4: shows [9h Kd] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9200 | Rake 0
Board [7c 9d 7s]
Seat 2: psufans2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Vster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (small blind) collected (9200)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: nottom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 275 **************
PokerStars Game #6020536037: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:55:43 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (95284 in chips)
Seat 3: Vster (47300 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (113138 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (32402 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (38284 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (26778 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts small blind 2000
nottom: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [5c 5d]
Shakedown63: folds
king1305 [observer] said, "nice"
psufans2: folds
Vster: raises 8000 to 12000
Rickydee4: folds
Dominator199: raises 20202 to 32202 and is all-in
nottom: folds
Vster: folds
Dominator199 collected 29200 from pot
Dominator199: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 29200 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Vster folded before Flop
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (small blind) collected (29200)
Seat 7: nottom (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Shakedown63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 276 **************
PokerStars Game #6020537651: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:56:14 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (95084 in chips)
Seat 3: Vster (35100 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (112938 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (49402 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (34084 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (26578 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Vster: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts small blind 2000
Shakedown63: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [2d Ks]
psufans2: folds
Vster: raises 8000 to 12000
Rickydee4: folds
Dominator199: calls 12000
nottom: folds
king1305 [observer] said, "WE ARE"
Shakedown63: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Td 3c]
psufans2 said, "PENN STATE"
Vster: bets 12000
Dominator199: raises 25202 to 37202 and is all-in
Vster: calls 10900 and is all-in
king1305 [observer] said, "ouch"
psufans2 said, "wow"
king1305 [observer] said, "K"
*** TURN *** [5d Td 3c] [7s]
king1305 [observer] said, "K"
*** RIVER *** [5d Td 3c 7s] [8s]
psufans2 said, "gg v"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vster: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
Dominator199: shows [Ts Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
king1305 [observer] said, "nh dom"
Vster said, "gg"
Dominator199 collected 77000 from pot
king1305 [observer] said, "gg V"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 77000 | Rake 0
Board [5d Td 3c 7s 8s]
Seat 2: psufans2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Vster showed [Kc Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: Rickydee4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (button) showed [Ts Th] and won (77000) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 7: nottom (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 277 **************
PokerStars Game #6020540230: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:57:03 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (94884 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (112738 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (91302 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (31884 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (22378 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts small blind 2000
psufans2: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [9d 4c]
Dominator199 said, "ty"
Rickydee4: folds
Dominator199 said, "ggV"
Dominator199: folds
nottom: folds
Shakedown63: folds
psufans2 collected 5000 from pot
psufans2: shows [3h 3c] (a pair of Threes)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5000 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 (big blind) collected (5000)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nottom (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 278 **************
PokerStars Game #6020541363: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:57:25 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (97684 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (112538 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (91102 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (31684 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (20178 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
psufans2: posts small blind 2000
Rickydee4: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [8c 2s]
Dominator199: folds
nottom: folds
Shakedown63: folds
psufans2: raises 8000 to 12000
Rickydee4: folds
psufans2 collected 9000 from pot
psufans2: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9000 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 (small blind) collected (9000)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Dominator199 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nottom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 279 **************
PokerStars Game #6020542649: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:57:50 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (102484 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (108338 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (90902 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (31484 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (19978 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts small blind 2000
Dominator199: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [2s 5s]
nottom: folds
Shakedown63: folds
psufans2: folds
Rickydee4: calls 2000
Dominator199: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kc As 3s]
nottom said, "cards above 5 would be nice soon"
Rickydee4: checks
Dominator199: checks
*** TURN *** [Kc As 3s] [Ah]
Rickydee4: bets 4000
Dominator199: folds
Rickydee4 collected 9000 from pot
Rickydee4: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9000 | Rake 0
Board [Kc As 3s Ah]
Seat 2: psufans2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (small blind) collected (9000)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: nottom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 280 **************
PokerStars Game #6020544177: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:58:20 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (102284 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (113138 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (86702 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (31284 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (19778 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts small blind 2000
nottom: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [Tc 3c]
Shakedown63: raises 15578 to 19578 and is all-in
psufans2: folds
Rickydee4: folds
Dominator199: folds
nottom: folds
Shakedown63 collected 11000 from pot
Shakedown63: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11000 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: nottom (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Shakedown63 collected (11000)

*********** # 281 **************
PokerStars Game #6020545295: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:58:42 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (102084 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (112938 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (84502 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (27084 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (26578 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts small blind 2000
Shakedown63: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [6d 4s]
psufans2: folds
Rickydee4: folds
sc00tor [observer] said, "soon"
Dominator199: raises 16000 to 20000
nottom: folds
Shakedown63: folds
Dominator199 collected 11000 from pot
Dominator199: doesn't show hand
king1305 [observer] said, "eventually tom"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11000 | Rake 0
Seat 2: psufans2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (button) collected (11000)
Seat 7: nottom (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 282 **************
PokerStars Game #6020546422: Tournament #30264604, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2006/08/23 - 04:59:04 (ET)
Table '30264604 30' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: psufans2 (101884 in chips)
Seat 5: Rickydee4 (112738 in chips)
Seat 6: Dominator199 (91302 in chips)
Seat 7: nottom (24884 in chips)
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (22378 in chips)
psufans2: posts the ante 200
Rickydee4: posts the ante 200
Dominator199: posts the ante 200
nottom: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts the ante 200
Shakedown63: posts small blind 2000
psufans2: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nottom [4s 9c]
nottom said, "i had a 6 that time"
Rickydee4: folds
Dominator199: folds
king1305 [observer] said, "VENEZULA WINS VENEZULA WINS"
nottom: raises 20684 to 24684 and is all-in
Shakedown63: folds
psufans2: calls 20684
*** FLOP *** [Js 2c Jh]
king1305 [observer] said, "aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
*** TURN *** [Js 2c Jh] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Js 2c Jh 2d] [Qs]
psufans2 said, "gg"
psufans2 said, "yea"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
psufans2: shows [7s 7c] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
nottom: shows [4s 9c] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
sc00tor [observer] said, "gg"
psufans2 collected 52368 from pot
king1305 [observer] said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 52368 | Rake 0
Board [Js 2c Jh 2d Qs]
Seat 2: psufans2 (big blind) showed [7s 7c] and won (52368) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 5: Rickydee4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Dominator199 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: nottom (button) showed [4s 9c] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 8: Shakedown63 (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: $20 MTT - Approaching FT but getting no cards (long HH)

In spite of being UTG I probably push #274 ... short handed, near the FT bubble pushing UTG can be perceived as a sign of strength ... it also depends of how your feel about sneaking onto the FT with a short stack ... I like to start out stronger.

Apart from that I don't seen any reasonable opportunities ... having waited that far I might let 94 pass - I'd rather push a hand with better chance of standing up - but if you're confident in your read on PSU of course it's mandatory.
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Old 08-23-2006, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: $20 MTT - Approaching FT but getting no cards (long HH)

[ QUOTE ]
In spite of being UTG I probably push #274 ...

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I seriously thought about pushing there and let it go as my time bank started ticking, because I though I'd find a better spot.

Looking back, I probably jumped the gun with the 94 push but as I said, my read on PSU was that he was kind of weak-tight at this point and was going to fold most of the time, but maybe I should still drop the bottom 10% of hands and push something a little better next hand or next orbit.
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Old 08-23-2006, 04:30 PM
Mr. Id Mr. Id is offline
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I like the read and the reasoning on PSU as the target, and you just got unlucky that he had a pair. That being said, if i've waited that long, and with the blinds a good bit off, I think I fold the 94 and wait for something with at least a straight possibility. I think I could actually hear you cry when you had to fold the 55 to the raise and all-in. That always hurts when you're cold decked and short stacked.

Do you think that the fact that it was almost 5am had anything to do with the push? I'm guessing you are EST since you said it was the 1am tourney. Fatigue may have caused that push a bit as well.
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:15 PM
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I push K9, and I call with 55.
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Old 08-23-2006, 09:30 PM
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Do you think that the fact that it was almost 5am had anything to do with the push? I'm guessing you are EST since you said it was the 1am tourney. Fatigue may have caused that push a bit as well.

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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised. Somewhere during all of this I had also made the final 3 tables of a 20/180 ... I had somewhere between 9-12 BBs and was holding A6s in LP. Without even thinking, I called a 3BB rasie from an EP player at a full table and didn't even realize I had done so until I was facing an all-in bet on the flop. Unfortunately I caught my 6 and BD flush, the board was ragged so I figured I had to call and ended up busting 27th to QQ becasue my mind just wasn't in the game.
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