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Old 08-21-2006, 06:21 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default $6.50 - Gambool time..?

I wonder if this was an +EV move... probably not.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1050)
UTG+1 (t2220)
MP1 (t1480)
Hero (t1500)
MP3 (t1490)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1350)
SB (t1440)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t20, Hero calls t20, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t20, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t10, BB checks

<font color="blue">Hero limps. Not a crime, eh?</font>

Flop: (t120) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets t60</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t60

<font color="blue">BB makes a weak bet and very LAGGY UTG miniraises. I have an overpair. CO yet to act. I'll just call and see what develops.</font>

Turn: (t480) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t460</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1360 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t450 (All-in)

<font color="blue"> That turn helped no-one. I'm putting both villains to a pair (their VPIP PF is 40+). UTG's bet looks very scraed. Push.</font>
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:26 AM
skegvegaspoker skegvegaspoker is offline
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Default Re: $6.50 - Gambool time..?

Only thing I would be worried about is that VPIP doesn't tell you anything about their post-flop play. It could be the case that he has VPIP of 80 but only min-raises flops that he hits 2 pair/sets on. I personally wouldn't risk over 2/3 of my stack on this play, especially as we only have 20 chips invested preflop.

I would call preflop and fold the the flop reraise, especialy as there is a better, min raiser and 2 left to act after you.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:28 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: $6.50 - Gambool time..?

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VPIP doesn't tell you anything about their post-flop play.

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UTG's post flop aggression factor was sky high, too. Does that change things?
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 - Gambool time..?

preflop: limp ok
flop: I'd put in 240 or even fold. The 240 would at least put the initial raiser to the test. If it is rerereraised by him I lay it down. If he folds and the raise comes from the aggro player I will have to call.
turn: gutsy move but probably too gutsy. I'd fold here probably.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:27 AM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: $6.50 - Gambool time..?

I fold flop.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 - Gambool time..?

The turn could have helped BBs 68.

I take the same line as Hesse, you need to either get out of this flop or take control of the hand.

Once you take control the hand will often play itself.

Oh, folding preflop is so bad its unreal.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - Gambool time..?

if you are limping here then it should be for set value and not over pair value cause u are letting everyone in cheap. so once you miss your set u are pretty much done here. with that said i would have raised pf to 120 and played it strongly with this flop. as played i think i would fold to the raise cause by not raising pf u let everyone in gods name come along and someone bound to have something.
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Old 08-22-2006, 02:37 AM
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i would have raised pf to 120

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Isn't it a bit early for this?
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:02 AM
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I fold flop.

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Joking? Right?
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: $6.50 - Gambool time..?

I don't mind this line, I'd probably stick in a raise on the flop though, I'm pounding this hand, you're definitely ahead here enough to go to the felt w/ it.
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