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Old 08-21-2006, 02:43 AM
shpongled shpongled is offline
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Default Wrap draw vs. 3 all in players

I've played enough hands with the button to know they have the nut straight 99% of the time and will go all the way with it even without a redraw. I'm not all that familiar with the other two players but they both seem loose, passive, and bad.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($59.35)
UTG ($57.60)
MP1 ($47.95)
MP2 ($17.50)
shpongled ($50.35)
Button ($105.55)
SB ($35.75)

Preflop: shpongled is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, shpongled calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($8.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls $4, shpongled calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $28.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $34</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $46.2</font>, shpongled ???

Putting it all in gives me almost exactly 3 to 1 on my money, assuming button calls.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:20 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Wrap draw vs. 3 all in players

my gut reaction says to fold here. too much of a possibility that you have the same hand as someone else and are drawing to a chop while the field is freerolling vs you with sets and flush draws. without doing any actual math, my gut says 3-1 isn't enough, though i will leave it up to someone else to prove or disprove me with twodimes.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: Wrap draw vs. 3 all in players

easy muck IMO.
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Old 08-21-2006, 04:03 AM
Silent A Silent A is offline
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Default Re: Wrap draw vs. 3 all in players

Consider this simulation:

1 player has a completely random flush draw (*h*h**) and the other 2 have random hands in the range 7 to K (may or not include pairs and/or hearts):

Random Omaha Hi Simulation Results (118,344 trials)
board: 6s9dtd
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
qcksjd8s 22.05% 20,396 11,807
*d*d** 35.22% 41,059 1,326
7 to K 21.23% 21,114 8,397
7 to K 21.50% 21,425 8,413

Not a lot to be up against, but you still don't have odds to call.

In fact, here are your odds heads up against a completely random flush draw:

Random Omaha Hi Simulation Results (600,000 trials)
board: 6s9dtd
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
qcksjd8s 39.16% 228,069 13,817
*d*d** 60.84% 358,114 13,817

Yuck.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:37 AM
CallYNotRaise06 CallYNotRaise06 is offline
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Default Re: Wrap draw vs. 3 all in players

i get it in. im not folding getting that good of a price.
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Old 08-21-2006, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Wrap draw vs. 3 all in players

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easy muck IMO.

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Old 08-21-2006, 04:57 PM
christyirish christyirish is offline
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Default Re: Wrap draw vs. 3 all in players

i like wraps in multiway pots,

but i hate wraps multiway when there is a flush draw.

Its sad and annoying but u have to fold.
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