3 more moves you will probably hate

punter11235 · #1 08-20-2006, 08:48 AM

Ok I am working on putting myself out of line more often. Here are some examples (no more floats OOP in 3bet pots this time)

1) Villain is LAG thinking player. I didnt do anything out of line vs him yet. No other reads at that point.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($567)
Button ($883)
SB ($479.40)
BB ($130)
UTG ($162.40)
MP ($1039.82)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
2 folds, Hero raises to $21, Button raises to $75, 2 folds, Hero calls $54.

Flop: ($159) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $78, Button raises to $215, Hero calls $414 (All-In)

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2)Villain is a rock both preflop and postflop. The plan is to make him fold his A.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($1192.66)
Hero ($669.50)
MP ($111)
CO ($286.65)
Button ($126.31)
SB ($579)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises to $21, 4 folds, BB calls $15.

Flop: ($45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $27, BB calls $27.

Turn: ($99) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($99) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $45, Hero raises to $168

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3)Villain is very LAGy but quite good in my opinion. Shorty is shorty he will push with any ace any pair and maybe some other crap.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($591)
SB ($82.80)
BB ($763.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises to $21, SB (poster) calls $79.80 (All-In), BB raises to $138.6, Hero calls $570 (All-In)

Does any of these sucks in your opinion ?

boondockst · #2 08-20-2006, 09:12 AM

I dont see what Villain doesnt call with getting almost 4 to 1 in hand 1.

I really like the move in hand #3 (occasionally) but Villain could still call with 88+

FeNeF · #3 08-20-2006, 09:17 AM

#1 I hate with a fiery passion
#2 Looks OK
#3 Read-dependant, is he gonna fold QQ here? I think I like it though

JackAll · #4 08-20-2006, 09:46 AM

H1 - I prefer a c/r on the flop. if I have AA/KK. Your line looks b.s. and less like a made hand - to me anyway.

H2 just looks odd. What are you representing? A set doesnt play that way. Neither does AK

punter11235 · #5 08-20-2006, 09:47 AM

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What are you representing?

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a seven

gimmenutz · #6 08-20-2006, 09:52 AM

i play it the same except u should bet 250 on the turn in hand 2

shootaa · #7 08-20-2006, 10:04 AM

hand 1, ure going to get calld by almost everything, there is prb no folding equity at all here unless he is also out of line w/ AK (even then he has pot odds to call unless he puts u on KK or AA)

hand 2. so you have exactly 87 or 97 here? i dont like this at all. i would just fold this preflop.

hand 3. eh, read dependent. i think its usu best to shy away from moves that are based on what someone else is thinking about what another person is thinking, since with each additional person ure reasoning is going to be less accurate (since ure bound to be a little incorrect with each person) and the problem is compounded when we bring in another person. its definitely not a bad idea at all, just saying, dont make it the norm

Reef · #8 08-20-2006, 10:18 AM

hand 1: like it

hand 2: villian needs to be weak tight here or else it sucks

hand 3: don't like that much

gimmetheloot · #9 08-20-2006, 10:24 AM

Hate hand one.

Hand two seems meh at best.

3 looks like he probably knows shorties pushing standards and is minraising to try shut you out with his 99-JJ type hand. I like it.

g-p · #10 08-20-2006, 10:37 AM

if i have 87 on hand 2 they always pay me off anyway