The Ultimate Fighter 4 premiers tonight!!!

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I really don't see any way that any of these guys will draw money for them (after TUF ends). They simply aren't good enough.

[jokerthief]

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I really don't see any way that any of these guys will draw money for them (after TUF ends). They simply aren't good enough.

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Sorry, but I think you are being more than a little presumptuous here. I highly doubt you've seen enough of each of these guys to make such a broad generalization.

[Hoya]

I've seen all but 2-3 of them fight, and the ones I haven't seen have very unimpressive records. There is a reason these guys are on the retread show - it's because they're retreads.

[KDawg]

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I really don't see any way that any of these guys will draw money for them (after TUF ends). They simply aren't good enough.

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not true at all. Shonie Carter has more then enough charisma to draw money and the same goes for Pete Spratt. Drawing doesn't always have to do with talent as it does with ability to get over. Why else does Phil Baroni still have a career and its the same reason that Forrest Griffen and Tito are two of their biggest draws. Griffen and Tito have tons of talent, but their charisma has made them into big time money draws for UFC

[Skipbidder]

I haven't watched it yet, but there are some names here.
I just spent some time rewatching old UFC fights. Matt Serra's fight against Kelly Dullanty was quite good. Din Thomas lost to BJ Penn and Caol Uno, not exactly chopped liver. Edwin Dewees won about a million non-UFC fights. Jorge Rivera has wins over David Loiseau and Dennis Hallman. All else being equal, I'd rather see people that I know (even if it's just from one or two fights years ago) rather than people I don't know anything else about. I guess the question will be whether all else is equal. I'll watch this show.