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Old 08-18-2006, 01:45 AM
BenA BenA is offline
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Default 2/4 QQ on A high board against worlds biggest goobers.

2/4 Poker Loco 10 handed.

BB in this hand is awful. He raises light and calls down with absolutely anything no matter what the agression. He 3-bets and caps PF with any Ace so figured it was less of a possibility here.

MP2 gets my own personal award for worst all time SS player. His software has no fold button, he tries bluffs at all the wrong times, calls down with boats, etc... Two hands earlier, I saw him call 3 cold with A5c, call 2 on the flop with A-high and a backdoor club draw (board had straight and spade draws on it.) So essentially, there is never any way to put him on anything.

Both these guys are very difficult to fold, but BB sometimes does if he has no pair, so betting here is mostly for value, but when do I stop?

Hero is dealth Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP3.

1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, GooberB calls, hero raises, 1 2 folds, GooberA calls, UTG+1 calls, GooberB calls.

4 to flop (8 SB)

8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

3 checks, Hero bets, GooberA calls, UTG+1 folds, GooberB calls.

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Goobers check, hero bets...

Am I starting to spew, or is this good value against random hands?

River 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Goobers check, hero?

Not sure exactly what to do in these situations, but one of them could easily have a hand that beats me. All comments appreciated.
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ on A high board against worlds biggest goobers.

I bet Turn and Check River.
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ on A high board against worlds biggest goobers.

I like it - value bet them all the way if they like to call down loose.

Bet the turn, and I'd probably even bet the river against these two by the sounds of it. They seem like the type to bet out their A somewhere, or bet out the river with an 8.
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Old 08-18-2006, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ on A high board against worlds biggest goobers.

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I bet Turn and Check River.

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Old 08-18-2006, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ on A high board against worlds biggest goobers.

I like checking behind on the river. The chance one of the has an A is too high.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ on A high board against worlds biggest goobers.

I'd check. If you're against just one of them it's an easy value bet.
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Old 08-18-2006, 07:48 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 QQ on A high board against worlds biggest goobers.

Standard play. You bet the turn for the combination of fold-equity / value-bet / free-showdown. It'd be interesting had he check-raised you. Normally a fold. I'd take the free showdown.
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