Fossilman's Account Hacked?

[D-Grief]

Both sides of this argument have some merit as far as I can see, that's often the case with issues that are difficult to resolve. Everyone is entitled to an opinion - qualified or not. Whether that opinion sways some of the public or not is surely irrelevant in this case as I assume this doesn't go to a jury? There's nothing wrong with rebutting an opinion either.

To react to the general expression of opinion in a personal way is silly, to react to that reaction personally is silly. I would assume both you guys want to see the best for poker in the long run. Those making this a 2+2 Vs FCP issue or a 7 Vs rest of poker issue are descending to the level of the the churlish comments that sparked much of this off.

True, poker needs bad press at the moment like a hole in the head but players are also entitled to what they think is a fair deal also. It would just behoove such giants of the game not to react at the zero-th level and perhaps think about the reaction that their reaction might cause. The l-ego (legal ego) and m-ego (moral) should take a back seat and let intelligent debate drive.

[cwsiggy]

Does Daniel think Howard is that stupid to try and avoid taxes? He was busted by the Feds a few years ago for God's sake! He's probably audited heavily every year.

[ekdikeo]

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The WPT has been around for a while. Has this happened ever? If not, then it seems a bit silly to be suing against a hypothetical.

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Happened or not, it's something that SHOULDN'T be in their contracts, and from what I understand, if it were removed, then there wouldn't be any issues going on.

I've been involved in a few gargantuan lawsuits in my time, and have learned a few things, for sure. One of them is that if you want a sizeable business to pay attention to you, you have to do it through their legal department.

I'm not a gambling man (I often tell people the only people gambling when I'm playing poker are my opponents [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ) but I'd put down 10:1 that Fossilman knows a lot more about lawyers, lawsuits, trademarks, and branding, than at least 95% of this group. Combined. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I also highly, highly, HIGHLY doubt that this lawsuit would have any affect whatsoever on any lawmakers view of poker -- No lawmaker in the U.S. wants us to be able to use our money for this purpose. When money gets transferred around willy nilly without documentation, it makes it very difficult for them to keep track of what you owe them. Certainly with all the numbers of politicians demanding a ban on online play, and all the ones repeating the 'gambling is evil' mantra, or whatever the hell they are doing, they sure as heck aren't representing the interests of their constituents.

I haven't seen any of the documentation on the lawsuit (anyone have links to it?) but I'd guess that this is a civil suit, and not a criminal suit, so really it's under most lawmakers radars. And there's the "7 people vs. a company that made $185,000 last year" angle, too.

Wow, I wish the TEXTAREA on this forum was a lot larger, so I could more easily review what the hell i'd written.

The BEST thing for poker, I think, would be to have as many pros as possible take a visible stance against the attempts at legislating online play out of existence, and non-online play to only casinos. I'd hate to have to go to Vegas or Atlantic City just to drink beer with my buds and play cards, but some places, that's the only thing that's legal.

I wonder what business has the politicians paid for and under their thumb? The big casinos shouldn't, they could leverage their big Vegas names, and turn billions of $ through. Only reason I can think of that politicians would be trying to get against it is either (a) the whacko branch of the religious side [differentiating that from the sane people that are religious] (b) taxes.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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Daniel's post on FCP can be found here

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...hp?showforum=7

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Haven't spent much time on FCP but eventually made it to the video blog and I saw the one where he is hitting golf balls and talking about the suit. The last video where he is talking while he lies down on the couch looking pretty unshaven is sort of funny. This is where he apologizes to Greg but I still haven't found where Greg was insulted in the first place (other than for being part of the suit against the WPT).

~ Rick