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Old 08-15-2006, 10:02 AM
n1232 n1232 is offline
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Default Deep in the Stars $35K guranteed. Trying to isolate

Not sure what to think of the call of my raise in position of villan 1 in this hand. Once the short stack pushed all in, I wanted to get it heads up. Is this a +EV play? Would it be better for me to just call the shorties push?(I think this play is bad b/c then it gives the cold caller behind me a chance to push) What about a fold preflop?


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t1000/t2000
(Ante: t100)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t123560
UTG+1: t47353
MP1: t47160
MP2: t30997
CO: t48440
Button: t42256
SB: t101800
BB: t13185

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t6000</font>, 3 folds, CO calls t6000 <font color="#aaaaaa">(pot was t9000)</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in t13085</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t123460</font>,
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:06 PM
n1232 n1232 is offline
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Default Re: Deep in the Stars $35K guranteed. Trying to isolate

Bump...nothing???? Is this that standard? I also want to hear on thoughts of folding preflop.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Deep in the Stars $35K guranteed. Trying to isolate

Unless you have notes that this guy likes to cold call in position with premium hands, I think this is a good push. You challenge his entire stack and are only against one player.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:44 PM
InternetJunky InternetJunky is offline
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Default Re: Deep in the Stars $35K guranteed. Trying to isolate

The problem here is you really have no sense of how strong the CO is. By pushing, you could be donating a 1/3 of your stack to a hand that has you dominated.

Another option is to simply call the all-in. If CO calls as well you may be able to check it down and eliminate the BB. But if CO pushes, you can leave the hand with 10% less chips, rather than 33% less.

I'd be interested to hear arguments against that line.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Deep in the Stars $35K guranteed. Trying to isolate

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The problem here is you really have no sense of how strong the CO is. By pushing, you could be donating a 1/3 of your stack to a hand that has you dominated.

Another option is to simply call the all-in. If CO calls as well you may be able to check it down and eliminate the BB. But if CO pushes, you can leave the hand with 10% less chips, rather than 33% less.

I'd be interested to hear arguments against that line.

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I think moving in is much better than calling in this spot. You might not know how strong the CO is, but he doesn't know how strong you are either. You are raising utg and have a huge stack...put the pressure on the CO. The only times I like calling in this spot are when you have a relatively loose image or you know that the CO will call in position with very strong holdings. Also I think the CO only calls here with QQ+, AK, maybe sometimes JJ, and he may even throw AK away. Push and pick up a little dead money.
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Old 08-15-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Deep in the Stars $35K guranteed. Trying to isolate

looks pretty standard to me
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Old 08-15-2006, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Deep in the Stars $35K guranteed. Trying to isolate

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looks pretty standard to me

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