(33) Good bluff opportunity or suicide?

[SonnyJay]

Though these situations don't come up very frequently in SNGs, when they do I like to take stabs to pick up the pot. Does anyone else try this at all, or is it too risky?

PartyPoker Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2068)
CO (t5132)
Button (t4487)
SB (t3478)
Hero (t4835)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, CO calls t400, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t200, Hero checks

Flop: (t1200) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t800</font>


Opponents hadn't done anything too crazy yet. My rationale is that:
[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] The limp from CO is a really weak play. It's unlikely that this flop connected with him, and even if it connected with SB it's unlikely that it's anything strong enough to put much money into the pot.
[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Since I didn't put any money in preflop, it's reasonable that I hit a hand on a flop like this.
[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Adding t1200 to my stack is definitely nice, especially when it's a lower risk play.
[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] In the event that I get any action and I have to fold, I'm still in a good chip situation (10+ BB).

Does anyone else think this works, or is it just chip spewing?

-SonnyJay

[durron597]

I would much rather shove preflop, what's these guys vpip

[Green Kool Aid]

after thinking about this, i really like. if i weren't such a pushbotting robot, i would definitely make moves like this more often.

[SonnyJay]

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I would much rather shove preflop, what's these guys vpip

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I wasn't playing on my computer and I don't have exact numbers. I remember him calling more preflop than was ideal (he'd open-limped a couple of times in LP in similar situations, one time showing J9s) but his overall vpip wasn't much higher than average.

-SonnyJay

[AMT]

this is probably ok, i dont mind durrons line of a shove PF though.

[costanza_g]

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I would much rather shove preflop, what's these guys vpip

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I think against the average 33er, a pf shove with 12bb into 2 people who have already vpip'd(one of them covers), is suicide.

[SonnyJay]

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I would much rather shove preflop, what's these guys vpip

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I think against the average 33er, a pf shove with 12bb into 2 people who have already vpip'd(one of them covers), is suicide.

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This was my thought as well. Likewise, on most flops I'm just mucking my hand. I just thought this could be a good opportunity because a bet from me is believable on this flop and I probably get CO to fold paint here. Seemed like a t800 stab to win t1200 would be worth it.

-SonnyJay

[tilted]

I pull this play in spots like this ocassionally. It depends alot on the read I have on the limper. You dont want to be doing this with any less chips in your stack.

If called what do you do when a King, seven, or heart rolls off? jw

[Pudge714]

Your way to deep here to shove preflop. I don't like this bet because they guy is so loose that lots of limping hands will hit this flop and he might even call the flop with ace high or king high.

[NoWayJose]

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If called what do you do when a King, seven, or heart rolls off? jw

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I would check/fold the turn to a bet if any of these cards came
I think a bet would be good on the river if a third K or 7 came or you made the flush