The worst card in the deck hits the turn...

akvsaq · #1 08-12-2006, 01:05 PM

20/406m

No reads. Unknown player.

All folds to button who raises, I 3B from SB w/ K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], he calls.

Flop comes K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet, he raises, I call.

Turn comes A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check/fold

Would you still check/fold x [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?

Terrabon98 · #2 08-12-2006, 01:46 PM

that's actually not the WORST, since you know he wasn't raising you with the nut draw on the flop, which narrows his range a bit. If you think he raises the flop with lone hearts, probably the Q or J, then don't be afraid to muck. Also, if he will get aggro with a lone ace on a monotone board, then sure, fold. Personally, I would either call that turn or lead the turn, and probably fold to more aggression.

DrGiggles · #3 08-12-2006, 07:29 PM

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Personally, I would either call that turn or lead the turn, and probably fold to more aggression.

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I think leading the turn against an unknown here is pretty bad. I would probably check/call this turn...re-evaluate on the river.

The Funky Llama · #4 08-12-2006, 08:58 PM

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I think leading the turn against an unknown here is pretty bad. I would probably check/call this turn...re-evaluate on the river.

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Yup this is what I would do. I think an unknown will have a worse hand that he will check through often enough that you at least have to call the turn. If the guy isn't a complete idiot he won't bet the river with a worse hand...

tolbiny · #5 08-14-2006, 02:50 PM

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Personally, I would either call that turn or lead the turn, and probably fold to more aggression.

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I think leading the turn against an unknown here is pretty bad. I would probably check/call this turn...re-evaluate on the river.

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I would much rather bet out than check call the turn here. One thing i hate about folding is you have 9 chop outs when behind to a non flush, of course when you are ahead (KJ,KT no heart) he has 9 chop outs which you give him for free when you check. So i hate checking (by extension i hate check calling), i hate folding, so i donk here. For me this is a [censored] situation where i don't particularly like any of my options so i reverse order them and avoid the ones i hate the most.