KJo: My biggest money loser

[jipster]

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You know you're in trouble when AA is your biggest loser.

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you know your in deeper (censored) when AA is your biggest winner, yet your total profit is under said figure for AA

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[BufordD]

Its a sucker hand. Its dominated by AK, AJ and KQ, all popular hands to play.

[Ares]

I had the same problem. Now I open KJo from HJ but not earlier (I opened previously from MP2 with that), exept in very tight games. Stoxtrader does the same, so it might be right...

[amulet]

KJo is not a good hand. vs decent players in a full ring game i usually don't play it. if it is folded to me in late position i raise. if a decent player or two has limped i fold. it looks better then it plays, and good players tend to have it dominated.

[Shandrax]

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Just looked through PT stats for 11.5K hands (not huge I know), but was VERY suprised to see KJo as the biggest money loser (-0.67BB/hand, 105 times).

I think I must be doing something fundamentally wrong? (Although I am winning at 3.61BB/100 across 3 levels for this sample size)

Any ideas or siggestions much appreciated (I bet you're going say "just don't play it then"?!)

Ian

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Could it have something to do with domination? Let me guess, most of your losses come from being up against A-K, K-Q and A-J.

[Gobgogbog]

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The sample size is pretty bad, as well. I would break it down by position and see where you are losing with it the most.

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Sample size is too small, so break it down even smaller?

[engineer_mba]

Hi Ian,

I highly recommend the replay feature for your losing hands. I was amazed how infrequently, I won with my two worst hands (KJo and QJs) and began playing them only in position when I thought I could get a cheap flop.

Hope this Helps,

L-

[nooob]

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Hi Ian,

I highly recommend the replay feature for your losing hands. I was amazed how infrequently, I won with my two worst hands (KJo and QJs) and began playing them only in position when I thought I could get a cheap flop.

Hope this Helps,

L-

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i dont know if limping in behind with KJ is a good idea. if there are 2 or less limps in front of u, u might want to start raising it up from late positions.

it all depends on the limpers of course, but i can't imagine solid EP limpers not raising it up with a better hand..

[Louie Landale]

Big unsuited hands have these two features: they are good when they are currently the best hand; they are terrible when they are currently not the best hand.

Against an early reasonable raiser, KJo is a big dog. You have to pray he has TT and you are slight dog that cannot win money from him, or pray he has AQ and a reasonable dog and again cannot win much money, unless it comes KQx.

Now its no secret in determining when you are likely to have the worst hand: its when a reasonable person raises or when a tight player calls a raise.

This is not rocket science. The best way to avoid playing KJo when someone else wants to raise is [1] fold when they raise, and [2] avoid it early just in case they raise.

So, play it selectively.

- Louie

[Shenlong]

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The sample size is pretty bad, as well. I would break it down by position and see where you are losing with it the most.

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Sample size is too small, so break it down even smaller?

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or maybe he plays kjo oop too much!