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TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
I'm at this crazy table where the villain is raising every pot, and winning on miracle cards. I ended up losing 50 BB in 3 hours at this table - mainly due to some bad beats, but also because I lack the ability to deal with these maniacs sometimes.
What is the best general standard line to take towards these maniacs? I play tight, but loosen up a bit around them - but I believe that I tend to call down way too much when I don't hit on the flop, simply because I know they play crap and I don't want them to bluff me out of pots where I believe I'm ahead. I'm sure this is a big leak.. Here's a classic example where I'm up against this guy, and I simply don't know what to do.. Dealt to Hero [ 10s 10c ] in MP1 Villain raises, UTG+1 folds, Hero reraise, 7 folds, villain calls. <font color="red"> Isolation raise here, which I guess is standard. </font> ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Qh, 8c ] Villain bets, hero raise, villain reraise, hero calls. <font color="red"> Here I reraise to gain information about villains hand, but I now believe this is a stupid move because this guy plays so irregularly that the move is wasted on him? </font> ** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ] Villain bets, hero folds. <font color="red"> Should I call down since I called his flop raise? </font> He bets every street with crap, but I decide to fold UI on the turn due to the fact the he's shown a lot of aggression on a flop with 2 over cards to my PP. I guess the fold is okay, but I'd appreciate comments on the line I'm taking against this guy, and also comments on how to deal with these maniacs in general? |
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
Folding pairs against maniacs is generally -EV. Once the flop comes down with two over cards you should probably just call/call/call and bet if he checks to you. The key to maniacs is trying to get into a lot of pots with JUST them (iso raising/reraising a lot) and generally showing down a lot of your hands.
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
If your hand isnt pretty good just call down, he will bet all the way
If you had KJo though in this case, or AQ , you would be right to get lots of bets in |
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
I like the isolation play PF. Given your maniac read, I would simply call all three streets unless you miraculously draw a ten.
I know this seems like a super weak play, but the only action that slows down a maniac is a call. |
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
Call/call/call.
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
You play hands with "showdown value" (pocket pairs, AK-A8, KQ-K9 etc.) and take most of them to showdown! Speculative hands are generally not profitable unless there's a family pot.
After you isolate the maniac with a PFR, most of the time you call down. If you have TPTK or better, jam the flop, and at least call the turn & river. Folding marginal hands postflop is the most common mistake vs. these guys. |
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
let him bet your hand. put him on a 100% range and see how you like your equity - then call every street if it's over 50%
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
Well, there's other players in the game who are also thinking about how to exploit the genius madman.
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
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Call/call/call. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: TT against total maniac! What\'s a good line here?
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let him bet your hand. put him on a 100% range and see how you like your equity - then call every street if it's over 50% [/ QUOTE ] You're going to need a lot less than 50% to call on every street. And if it's over 50%, don't you like raising a lot of the time? I understand you're compensating because his range probably isn't 100%, but 50% is a very bad number if you're advocating folding everything else. |
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