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Old 08-10-2006, 01:45 PM
juggler97531 juggler97531 is offline
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Default Re: One card str8 against pfr

i do have double gutshot on the flop to be precise.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:46 PM
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Ok, just to clear it up for the first six replies that can't read the board. We're double gutted and both an 8 or Q gives us a straight.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:46 PM
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I would probably c/r the flop with this hand. The donk just looks donky.

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C/r a gutshot with a backdoor flush draw? Really? Free card play?

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You missed something. It's not a gutshot, its a double gutshot, the best kind of straight draw there is. A c/r is for value if the limper calls the flop bet. Free card play doesn't make any sense b/c Hero is OOP.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:47 PM
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I would probably c/r the flop with this hand. The donk just looks donky.

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C/r a gutshot with a backdoor flush draw? Really? Free card play?

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You guys rule at evaluating your hand on the flop.

Edit: lol at edited in "Free card play?" One more try.

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I missed the double gut-shot as well. I assume you c/r only when the other player calls as well? Betting this flop still sucks.

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Nope, I c/r both situations.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:48 PM
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PF is standard.

Flop: There is just no reason to donk a gutshot here. Check-call seems like much better line.

Turn: Do you have any reads here? I think even without one I prefer a CR line on this, but I wouldn't want it to get checked through.

CR or not, the river is correct. This should def. be getting capped. If he has KQ, well, then, put on your favorite death metal record and scream about it.

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Interesting. When you look at it, KQ would be played this way by the villain quite often. I now might just call the river raise instead of 3 betting it. Again a read is important. Is that weak?
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: One card str8 against pfr

Argh, I missed the double-gutter. gg me, I suck at pocker.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:49 PM
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Ok, just to clear it up for the first six replies that can't read the board. We're double gutted and both an 8 or Q gives us a straight.

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So this is a value donk bet?
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:49 PM
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Nope, I c/r both situations.

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Why check/raise the flop when we don't have the equity to do so?
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:50 PM
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So this is a value donk bet?

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LOL!
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:50 PM
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PF is standard.

Flop: There is just no reason to donk a gutshot here. Check-call seems like much better line.

Turn: Do you have any reads here? I think even without one I prefer a CR line on this, but I wouldn't want it to get checked through.

CR or not, the river is correct. This should def. be getting capped. If he has KQ, well, then, put on your favorite death metal record and scream about it.

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Interesting. When you look at it, KQ would be played this way by the villain quite often. I now might just call the river raise instead of 3 betting it. Again a read is important. Is that weak?

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Yes, this seems like the line KQ would take pretty close to every time. But lots of guys will be overaggressive when they hit Aces up or a set like you said in your first post. So if he was a good TAG, we'd just call, but since he's your average .5/1 player it's a 3-bet.
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