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Old 08-08-2006, 03:20 PM
donk_on_tilt donk_on_tilt is offline
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Default Re: Ten High flush for your whole stack?

Lol, how did u calculate its +ev?
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Ten High flush for your whole stack?

Why does everyone write off the possibility of villain holding a lower flush?
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:41 PM
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Am i the only one who thinks smoothcalling the original raise is bad?

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nope.
1k straight.
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:29 PM
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Why does everyone write off the possibility of villain holding a lower flush?

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that's why folding is bad, IMO...he has a flush, but not necessarily a high one and probably not the nuts.
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:38 PM
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Lol, how did u calculate its +ev?

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I didn't. Villain can have one of 18 combinations for a better hand, so let's see what hero might be able to beat if he gets called.

A-A (6)
J-J (3)
6-6 (3)
2-2 (3)
Ah-J (3)
5h-4h (1)

Interesting, but that's actually much closer than I thought. Given all the redraws and the possibility that villain already has a better flush made, the fold doesn't look that bad anymore.
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:47 PM
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After the hand, I was 100% sure he had the nut flush. My first read was he like the flop alot. The utg raiser was representing a monster hand. I also represent the a monster flush by smooth calling as he still behind me to act. Since I have a LAG image to him, he knows I won't smooth call the nut flush draw here. As he was looking at me knowing i have a monster, and confidently raised 700.

The thing is if i see him bluff in tough spots like this even once, I am all in...but he always have the nuts when the chips are flying in....

Richard
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:52 PM
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Bluff,

"this is an unraised pot where any good player with those stack sizes shouldn't go broke without the nuts or 2nd nuts in a multiway pot" .

Thx...this is exactly the answer i was looking for.

Richard
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:06 PM
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Micky,

I don't think too many sensible people have the balls to play like the way you describe, semi bluffing out position against 2 players with made hands because they sense weakness...

i do see your point
Richard
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:40 PM
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Solid keeping up the image.

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you fold this pf? LOL

I would usually raise it.

Fold looks okay.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:10 AM
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@ TheArtist
There is a psychological aspect to this thread. You lost the hand and it is obviously bugging you that you might have made a mistake. Now you are posting here in the hope that people will confirm your decision, so it feels better and you can get it out of your mind. True? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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