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Old 08-03-2006, 06:04 PM
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Only problem with casino war is that if you want to wager everything with one bet then you are in trouble if both get same card. I think if your aim is doubling up then doing one big bet is best EV. I am just trying to figure out game with good EV and where I never need to pay any more after starting bet.

Be warned that single big bet being best EV is just my own theory. I haven't found any comments about that from people who do this more.

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Anyone agree with the betting it all on the pair plus bet in 3CP? The only problem I see is, like VP, the unlikely top heavy payouts skew the HA.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:18 PM
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Only problem with casino war is that if you want to wager everything with one bet then you are in trouble if both get same card. I think if your aim is doubling up then doing one big bet is best EV. I am just trying to figure out game with good EV and where I never need to pay any more after starting bet.

Be warned that single big bet being best EV is just my own theory. I haven't found any comments about that from people who do this more.

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Anyone agree with the betting it all on the pair plus bet in 3CP? The only problem I see is, like VP, the unlikely top heavy payouts skew the HA.

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It would be pretty damn sick to hit a straight flush at 40:1 ona $800 bet though [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:04 PM
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Well thanks for the help guys. I took my $800 stack to War and bet the max ($300) and busted out right quick. Oh well, at least I got a gamesgift point out of it heh.

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Whats the deal with this promo? do you get the same percentage of bonus if your deposit is smaller (such as the 100 needed for games gifts?

Thanks Ken
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:22 PM
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Anyone agree with the betting it all on the pair plus bet in 3CP? The only problem I see is, like VP, the unlikely top heavy payouts skew the HA.

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HA doesn't change by top heavy payouts

top heavy payouts means you have a greater chance of busting which means EV is higher.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:05 AM
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I think you mean variance is higher. Top heavy payouts do not affect EV.

What will affect EV is that if you really hit the straight flush I think your chances of ever getting the money out of casino is quite small. They will decide it is "bonus abuse" and remove the winnings. If you only double the money your chances of withdrawing it are lot better.
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:11 AM
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Anyone agree with the betting it all on the pair plus bet in 3CP? The only problem I see is, like VP, the unlikely top heavy payouts skew the HA.

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HA doesn't change by top heavy payouts

top heavy payouts means you have a greater chance of busting which means EV is higher.

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Ok I worded that wrong then, what I meant was since there are very few sticky bonuses where this strategy could be implemented you will most likely lose on all of your attempts. VERY rarely will someone hit a straight flush or three of a kind betting it all on one hand making the effective HA way more than 2.32%. Am I way off base here?

Just in case im still misunderstood, compare it to playing 5 hands of video poker in your lifetime. You really shouldn't factor in the royal flush in the HA for your calculations because it is so rare to hit.
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Old 08-04-2006, 03:14 AM
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VERY rarely will someone hit a straight flush or three of a kind betting it all on one hand making the effective HA way more than 2.32%. Am I way off base here?

Just in case im still misunderstood, compare it to playing 5 hands of video poker in your lifetime. You really shouldn't factor in the royal flush in the HA for your calculations because it is so rare to hit.

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This is completely incorrect. Your EV is functionally unchanged for the reasons you stated (your EV increases with bet size for multiple reasons). Every single hand you play has the same chance to hit a royal or whatever, no matter how large the sample size may be.

Your ROR and SD go through the roof with larger bet sizes, however. Slamming it all on a game that doesn't have doubling/splitting or other types of future investments necessary (come bets or existing pass line bets in craps after the point is set) does not make the EV go down because you are "unlikely to hit a royal flush."
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