another c/r on the turn

Octopus · #1 08-01-2006, 11:50 AM

10 handed. I raise it in EP with AKo and get two cold callers plus the SB along for the ride. Four to the flop for 9SB.

Flop is A97r and I bet when the SB checks to me. The other two drop and the SB calls.

Two to the turn for 5.5BB.

The turn is a J putting a two flush on board. (I have the flush ace.) This time he check-raises me.

SB is 12.4/8.6/2.5 on 266 hands. Though I did not know it at the time, later hand review reveals that he once check-raise semi-bluffed a J high flush draw on the turn HU but has otherwise showdown only quality hands.

What is your plan?

kerowo · #2 08-01-2006, 11:57 AM

Call him down and make a note. The board is coordinated enough that garbage in the SB could have hit. I'm more likely to give the blinds credit for crappy two pair or weird straights and go into call down mode than I am someone who paid full price to be in the hand.

DrModern · #3 08-01-2006, 12:02 PM

Yeah I just call this hand down.

Octopus · #4 08-01-2006, 12:15 PM

What if he checks the river? (three cases: if the river is a blank, an 8 or a three flush).

Xhad · #5 08-01-2006, 12:34 PM

Bet, except against the flush card. In the first two cases it usually means that his c/r was full of crap but he may or may not have something he wants to show down. In the third case he'll often check hands better than yours because he's afraid of the flush.

Mustafa · #6 08-01-2006, 05:37 PM

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Bet, except against the flush card. In the first two cases it usually means that his c/r was full of crap but he may or may not have something he wants to show down. In the third case he'll often check hands better than yours because he's afraid of the flush.

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I'd bet all three times. Not that he wouldn't be confusing the heck out of us already but if his flush card comes and he doesn't bet it, he's nuts. I'd go b/f all three times unless I were really dying to know why he would raise the turn HU OOP and then check the river.

I'd be like Bart and the wired cupcake.

Xhad · #7 08-01-2006, 08:29 PM

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Not that he wouldn't be confusing the heck out of us already but if his flush card comes and he doesn't bet it, he's nuts.

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I'm not worried that he has a flush. I'm worried that he said "Oh crap, the flush hit" and incorrectly decided to check two pair.

QTip · #8 08-01-2006, 08:54 PM

No one considers a turn 3 bet?