Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open - Page 3

fro_dude · #21 01-21-2006, 12:27 AM

Can't say I like the pre-flop play of 6. Cold calling 5 BB's for 1/7 of your stack is ludicrous...and look what happened...worst nightmare coming true. 3 more callers. I don't believe he has enough chips to be coldcalling/trapping pre-flop here. It's too fishy. Seat 7, seat 1...great odds...position...who knows. Post flop--can't see anything unusual...someone's slowplaying, and no one wants to get 5-7000 chased away by a re-raise all-in, everyone's playing a little cautious. This is a great flop and turn for AA, only behind to JJ,QQ,or 7x. Think he probably makes his move on the turn if someone doesn't do it for him...worst nightmare for him when you re-raise all-in, but no way to get away from this hand if i'm Seat 6. Seat 5 is off in left field, maybe his wife's havin a baby, or his dog just died, who knows, awful play IMO.

betgo · #22 01-21-2006, 12:29 AM

Seat 5's preflop raise was bad and the turn call was worse.

Seat 6's preflop play was fine and pretty standard. He could also have reraised. I don't know about his turn play. It is a big pot and kind of hard to fold an overpair.

The ppreflop call of the 5xBB raise multiway for 1/10 of his stack with 74o was a typical Gigabet play. Most people would fold. The bad play of his opponents perhaps justifies it.

I prefer Gigabet's checking the flop OOP to betting out with trips in a 5-way pot.

marchron · #23 01-21-2006, 01:48 PM

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Eventually the hands get opened, and Seat 5 opens QT, and Seat 6 opens AA?!?! This is the 4th level of the Championship event of a WPT event. Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.

Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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Was Seat 5 Robert Varkonyi?

Dave D · #24 01-21-2006, 01:57 PM

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Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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Mike Caro calls it the law of loose wiring.

Yuv · #25 01-21-2006, 02:13 PM

If seat 5 played that hand so bad, it might be safe to assume he's a bad player and seat 6 might know that. I don't think seat 6 play was that bad, if he thought he could get seat 5 HU in position. I guess he thought the table was tighter than it is.

CardSharpCook · #26 01-21-2006, 03:34 PM

ITS TOP PAIR PEOPLE!!!!!

betgo · #27 01-21-2006, 04:00 PM

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If seat 5 played that hand so bad, it might be safe to assume he's a bad player and seat 6 might know that. I don't think seat 6 play was that bad, if he thought he could get seat 5 HU in position. I guess he thought the table was tighter than it is.

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Seat 6's flat call was OK. He just got a bad result. He was hoping someone would reraise. Otherwise, it is not bad if no one else calls or one additional player calls. He may have had a read on Seat 5 that Seat 5 had a weak hand and would not call a reraise, but would commit it he made some kind of pair or draw. With the table playing as loose as it appears, he may have thought there was a good chance for a reraise. I think seat 6 played this fine.

This looks like a $20 online MTT with a 5xBB raise and 4 callers. I wonder what everyone else was calling with.

I won't question Gigabet's call, as it is his style. I wonder how often you make trips or something or can steal from 4 players OOP. I might call with 76s.

Seat 5 is described as a "tour player" rather than a tour pro. Maybe he won some 6 figure prize online or live and thinks he is a tour pro. Or maybe he is wealthy and can afford to play in these tournaments.

Scuba Chuck · #28 01-22-2006, 03:49 AM

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Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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It's called "Ka-ching." <font color="white"> color me up please. </font>

BruceWayne · #29 01-22-2006, 04:54 AM

They didn't put you on your hand, AND, they didn't put each other on the hand they held either. I'm thinking, rookie mistake, but by your comments, they aren't rookies. So, I'm stumped too.

betgo · #30 01-22-2006, 10:37 AM

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They didn't put you on your hand, AND, they didn't put each other on the hand they held either. I'm thinking, rookie mistake, but by your comments, they aren't rookies. So, I'm stumped too.

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I guess I am a rookie, but if there is 10K in the pot and I have 10K left, I am not folding AA on a QJ77 board. I guess that guy was a real fish for not figuring someone called 5xBB with 74o.