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Old 07-31-2006, 02:52 AM
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if he 3-bets AK more often than not, folding is terrible

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it's about more than just preflop hand strength. more often than not, this hand is going to be painfully difficult to play postflop.
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:53 AM
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After you call flop, given your preflop action, it's ridiculously obvious you have TT-QQ. Fold the turn.

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i agree. i don't find loose passives trying to bluff players off overpairs here, they're almost always value betting.

even though 2.3 aggro is decently aggressive for a 28 VPIP, his 10 PFR is what worries me. be a good time to know his 3-bet pfr %.
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:04 AM
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if he 3-bets AK more often than not, folding is terrible

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it's about more than just preflop hand strength. more often than not, this hand is going to be painfully difficult to play postflop.

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if he was more aggressive or better, i think this might be true. but i think a guy like this most likely doesn't bluff enough and as a result, has an exploitable tendency to let me know whether he has the best hand. so that and the strength of my hand should put me in a profitable spot
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:06 AM
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if he was more aggressive or better, i think this might be true. but i think a guy like this most likely doesn't bluff enough and as a result, has an exploitable tendency to let me know whether he has the best hand. so that and the strength of my hand should put me in a profitable spot


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i think the turn is definitely a fold if the above is true.

reason you can play this profitable postflop oop is because he'll bet once with AK and stop. if he can fire 2 barrels with any hand here i think your call pf becomes much more marginal.
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:15 AM
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yeah i just couldn't let it go because i kept thinking JJ, but i agree that it shouldb e a turn fold
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:17 AM
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I'm new to thise wht do the numbers mean? 28/10/2.3 is it VPIP, PFR? and aggression factor??
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:20 AM
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folding QQ pre-flop "standard" LOL I guess you guys only play AA and KK. WoW!
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:25 AM
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As played I cant see folding the river. I might have raised the turn.
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:27 AM
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folding QQ pre-flop "standard" LOL I guess you guys only play AA and KK. WoW!

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i fold QQ preflop to 3 bets quite a bit and I make way more $$$$$ than you.

I'm also better at reading comprehension apparently
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:30 AM
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I'm new to thise wht do the numbers mean? 28/10/2.3 is it VPIP, PFR? and aggression factor??

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yup
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