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Old 07-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Makonnen Makonnen is offline
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Default Makonnen\'s Muck Ups (Low Limit O8) #5

I think I chased this one too far. Comments inline.

Party Poker | Limit Omaha Ring game | Limit: $0.50/$1
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Makonnen is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Makonnen raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

<font color="purple">The UTG raise is a bit much, but it's not the real mistake in the hand.</font>

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12SB, 6 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Makonnen calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, Makonnen calls, MP1 calls.

<font color="purple">OK. Here is where it gets more interesting, at least to me. I have the nuts on the flop, with a likely high only board. Should I cap it? I don't really trust top trips in O8, so I didn't. But that may have been incorrect.</font>

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12BB, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Makonnen checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, Makonnen calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO calls all-in $1.32</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Makonnen calls, MP1 calls.

<font color="purple">Now I now longer have the nuts, although I'm not sure what hands with 8T in them are in this hand--but so many people are in the hand that anything is possible. Is calling two cold here wrong? At that point, I am getting 7.5:1 on the call, with likely overcalls behind me. At the end of the round, I got about 10:1 on my money, which feels fine, given that I have 9 outs to the scoop. Also, the all-in move felt like someone who had already decided this was their last hand.</font>

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (23.6BB, 4 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 23.6BB)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Makonnen calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, Makonnen folds, MP1 calls, Button calls.

<font color="purple">Low hits, no way is high good, fold.</font>

Results:
Final pot: 36.6BB
<font color="#ffffff">SB shows Ts 4c 3h 2s </font>
<font color="#ffffff">MP1 shows 7s 5h 3s 2d </font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO shows Jc Kc 3c Th </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button shows Td Kd Qs 8h </font>

Reading it, I wonder if a pre-flop raise would have knocked anyone out.

-Makonnen
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:01 PM
Pnigro Pnigro is offline
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Default Re: Makonnen\'s Muck Ups (Low Limit O8) #5

I didn't read the results.

Flop: I don't like the call here. I raise hoping to push people out of the pot and not get outdrawn.

Turn: This call is all right, however, with 6 players, it's very likely someone has a made straight or a flush draw, so you call hoping the river pairs the board.

River: Good fold. I call here 1 and maybe 2 bets, but 4 bets indicates a nut hand from someone.
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Old 07-28-2006, 04:19 PM
davebreal davebreal is offline
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Default Re: Makonnen\'s Muck Ups (Low Limit O8) #5

[ QUOTE ]
I don't really trust top trips in O8

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You have top set. Trips only exist when the board is paired. A set is always much stronger than trips. http://www.poker-strategy.org/defaul...9&amp;tabid=85
You're welcome. I'm on a holy quest to clear up this common mistake.

In any case, looks like you should have raised the flop, with top set... especially with this many people in, and such a dry board. Nice laydown on river.
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