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Old 07-27-2006, 02:44 PM
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Default PP $400 NL hand/ TPTK problems

PP $400 NL 6 handed.
Hero UTG w/ A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero Raises to $12... button calls, villian (sb) calls, BB calls.
Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Pot @$36. Villian in SB bets out $24. No read , seems relatively tight and controlled player.....has just under $700, so won a few pots. Hero Raises to $56. Villian make it $150 to go. Set? Flush draw? who likes folding here......thoughts......
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: PP $400 NL hand/ TPTK problems

Do you have villian covered? That makes a huge difference between a push or folding.

And please raise the flop more.
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: PP $400 NL hand/ TPTK problems

No....villian has me covered. And $12 is 3xBB.....seems pretty standard to me....or in the least not TOO small.
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: PP $400 NL hand/ TPTK problems

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No....villian has me covered. And $12 is 3xBB.....seems pretty standard to me....or in the least not TOO small.

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he said flop. not preflop
although my standard preflop is 4xBB
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: PP $400 NL hand/ TPTK problems

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No....villian has me covered. And $12 is 3xBB.....seems pretty standard to me....or in the least not TOO small.

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he said flop. not preflop
although my standard preflop is 4xBB

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Oh. My bad. Is he trying to say that my "smallish" flop raise was read by villian as a weak attempt to feign a monster hand with like AK or AQ. should I be raising this flop to like 80 or 100?
The only hands I'm worried about are 44 or 55......if he had JJ-AA I would have thought he'd reraise, being out of position and all(although stupider(lol) things have been done). I'm also not that thrilled about gambling my whole stack against his flush draw, which I think was another strong possibility.
aw crap.....I thought this was a good fold at the time, but now I think I got pwned.
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: PP $400 NL hand/ TPTK problems

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I'm also not that thrilled about gambling my whole stack against his flush draw

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If you know he has only a flush draw (2:1 dog) and you aren't thrilled to get all the chips in & get called, then you are one confused poker player.
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Old 07-27-2006, 04:40 PM
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As played I think you have to fold. You're too deep, and he can bluff too many cards on the turn that may or may not improve his hand.

But you need to make it closer to 80 on the flop, he could've easily interperted your min-raise as a mediocre hand and 3-bet a flush draw.
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