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Old 07-26-2006, 03:50 PM
vingte vingte is offline
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Default PLO8 $50 : Straight without position

Hi,

I've got a problem playing straight when I do not have the position. What should I do on the turn and on the river ? No special read on the player. I only know that most of them makes more mistakes than I do.

I check the turn, and given the action, I know that I've got the best hand. Should I keep this pot small ?

Thanks for not answering fold preflop [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Paradise Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
10 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $26.50
UTG+1: $30.00
MP1: $14.50
MP2: $54.85
MP3: $16.40
MP4: $20.00
CO: $35.00
Button: $9.25
<font color="#cc0000">Hero: $65.20</font>
<font color="#cc0000">BB: $35.05</font>

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, MP4 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets 0$50</font>, MP4 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5$50, 5 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets 1$</font>, MP1 calls, MP4 folds, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises 9$50</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($25.50, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls.

Results:
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows Jc 5c Qc Kd (-$20.50)
BB shows Th 5h Jd Ac (+$22.80)</font>

Yann
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:57 PM
glass_onion glass_onion is offline
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Default Re: PLO8 $50 : Straight without position

Its tough to play vulnerable nut hands OOP, and as an avid PLO player I feel qualified to answer this post, as it plays like a PLO hand.

Depending on how the table had been playing calling or raising is right. At a table of callers, not too aggro, I'd raise 3/4. Not to many people can play this hand, as most play lo cards, and you are probably ahead with good draws.

Turn: current, vulnerable nuts. I like the PR. You are EV+.

River: clear check/call situation. Your PB said st8 or 3kind, certaintly not drawing. You are typically only called by better hands. Worse hands might try to bluff. Check, call.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 $50 : Straight without position

you tried to take it down on the turn and BB made a call I wouldn't make with his cards. You don't want to see a king or spade or board pairing and you get a king of spades. cut your losses maybe
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 $50 : Straight without position

I forgot : On the river, I do a blocking bet, and plan to fold to any raise, so that BB don't try to bluff me
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:04 PM
Drizztdj Drizztdj is offline
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Default Re: PLO8 $50 : Straight without position

Why waste the money if you're going to fold?

Check/Call on the river.
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 $50 : Straight without position

[ QUOTE ]
Why waste the money if you're going to fold?

Check/Call on the river.

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I had to call even a pot size bet ? These tables are not very agressive.

I make a blocking bet because it will cost me only 10$ to be sure I don't have the best hand.
If I check, I think he can pot it with the best hand or bluff (less likely). And I don't like to make these calls.
But I'm perhaps doing something wrong.
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 $50 : Straight without position

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Why waste the money if you're going to fold?

Check/Call on the river.

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How big a bet are you willing to call, here? I hope the answer is "not very."
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