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#21
07-26-2006, 12:24 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
With two overs, I'm not sure if 99-JJ will call even a small value bet. If he has a weak king, he calls. If he has a monster, we've just re-opened the betting and he's going to raise. I'm not sure the small value bet is worth re-opening in this spot, but I'm as nitty as they come.
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#22
07-26-2006, 12:26 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
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With two overs, I'm not sure if 99-JJ will call even a small value bet. If he has a weak king, he calls. If he has a monster, we've just re-opened the betting and he's going to raise. I'm not sure the small value bet is worth re-opening in this spot, but I'm as nitty as they come. [/ QUOTE ] wow, 99-JJ will definitely call. Not valuebetting here is a big leak.Why do you care about reopening the betting, you're not going to get bluff raised here.
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#23
07-26-2006, 12:29 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
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I'm not sure the small value bet is worth re-opening in this spot [/ QUOTE ] If you can't find a value bet here, or at least a burning desire to valuebet this river, you have a big leak. BIG. This is where much of the profit comes from in NLHE. River VBs like this.
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#24
07-26-2006, 12:32 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
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[ QUOTE ] With two overs, I'm not sure if 99-JJ will call even a small value bet. If he has a weak king, he calls. If he has a monster, we've just re-opened the betting and he's going to raise. I'm not sure the small value bet is worth re-opening in this spot, but I'm as nitty as they come. [/ QUOTE ] wow, 99-JJ will definitely call. Not valuebetting here is a big leak.Why do you care about reopening the betting, you're not going to get bluff raised here. [/ QUOTE ] Plus this is a pretty weirdly played weak king. Why does he lead into the pf raiser with air, then bet only 1/3 pot when he actually hits his hand?
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#25
07-26-2006, 12:43 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not sure the small value bet is worth re-opening in this spot [/ QUOTE ] If you can't find a value bet here, or at least a burning desire to valuebet this river, you have a big leak. BIG. This is where much of the profit comes from in NLHE. River VBs like this. [/ QUOTE ] At first I thought $15 was about right. But then I thought AJ had some hidden meaning to the post. I'm reading into it too much. Villain is weak.
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#26
07-26-2006, 02:35 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
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Plus this is a pretty weirdly played weak king. Why does he lead into the pf raiser with air, then bet only 1/3 pot when he actually hits his hand? [/ QUOTE ] Opposite man?!
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#27
07-26-2006, 02:40 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
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A 41BB pot with 2nd pair top picker is big enough - check behind. [/ QUOTE ] terrible thought process. Bet for sure here.
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#28
07-26-2006, 02:41 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
Eh, depends on villain, but with no reads, I like the call on the flop. Raising the flop isn't really going to do much for you. If he calls, he still could have a set. If he raises, do you fold? Plus raising the flop will prob chase away Q/x hands, which you want to be giving you more action on the turn. IMO, a raise will only scare away hands you beat.
I like the turn call, because its a small BS bet, and he is probably scared of the King also. River.. I'm kind of torn on this one. He is probably still calling a river bet with Q/x because your bet probably looks at a bluff, but at the same time betting will give him a chance to raise you, which you can't call. I personally probably bet this river for 1/2 the pot or so, hoping to get called by Q/x. If raised big, I will curse, think for 10 seconds, and probably fold.
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#30
07-26-2006, 02:50 PM
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Re: Simple AQ hand
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not sure the small value bet is worth re-opening in this spot [/ QUOTE ] If you can't find a value bet here, or at least a burning desire to valuebet this river, you have a big leak. BIG. This is where much of the profit comes from in NLHE. River VBs like this. [/ QUOTE ] I keep hearing this. "Value betting is the most important part of NL poker,etc" I'm sure that holds true, cuz uhh... value = money right? Anyway, if would be cool if someone started a post about what "value betting" actually is and why it is so important to your winrate at SSNL. Knowing when to value bet and when to excersise pot control = key to poker ?
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