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07-24-2006, 04:34 PM
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Pair of Ladies ... How do you handle them?
Hello my 2+2 Mentors...
Did I play bad here? What would you do? BB is 50/3 MP is 22/6 I've been playing my usual 18/9 game. .5/1 NL Full Ring $100NL BB is Short about $54 I've got $100 MP has $100 Everyone folds to MP who bets $4 I get QQ in the Hijack (Position 6) I raise to $16, Normally I'd raise to about $12 but this table is deliciously loose and I want to isolate the 50/3 in the big blind. Folded to the BB 50/3 calls 16 cold MP 22/6 Min Raises.... to $28 ??? 
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#2
07-24-2006, 04:55 PM
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Re: Pair of Ladies ... How do you handle them?
Hmmm... Well, if your read is right, BB probably isn't folding the hand either way, since he's in for nearly a third of his stack... And will be getting pretty good odds unless you go all-in here...
If you figure MP is pretty tight, what's his range here? AA-JJ, plus maybe AKs AK AQs TT? You're ahead of all of those except AA or KK... 50% against AK... Has he shown down weaker starting hands than this in big pots? The min-raise spooks me, though... if he had something like QQ or JJ, wouldn't he want to bet more and get anyone with a strong ace to fold? If he had AKs/AK, I don't think he wants to get three-way with vs. the re-raiser and the loosest cannon at the table. The min raise here feels like a pot-builder... Seems like a big bet he hopes will get called by at least one of you... I think I call here and re-evaluate on the flop...
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#4
07-25-2006, 06:38 AM
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Re: Pair of Ladies ... How do you handle them?
[ QUOTE ]
Hello my 2+2 Mentors... Did I play bad here? What would you do? BB is 50/3 MP is 22/6 I've been playing my usual 18/9 game. .5/1 NL Full Ring $100NL BB is Short about $54 I've got $100 MP has $100 Everyone folds to MP who bets $4 I get QQ in the Hijack (Position 6) I raise to $16, Normally I'd raise to about $12 but this table is deliciously loose and I want to isolate the 50/3 in the big blind. Folded to the BB 50/3 calls 16 cold MP 22/6 Min Raises.... to $28 ??? [/ QUOTE ] I figure I'm getting 5 to 1, And I think I want an overcall from the loose BB 50/4. So I call for $12. BB 50/4 Pushes his stack in... Raises to $54. MP calls ... It's $26 to me. There is 54+54+28= $132 in the pot plus blinds. Again I'm getting 5 to 1 with QQ???? I figure even if he has AA, I'm still only about a 5 to 1 dog... And the loose BB provides an overlay... What would you do????
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#5
07-25-2006, 08:13 AM
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Re: Pair of Ladies ... How do you handle them?
I am probably going to get stubborn here and call. I am playing qq for set value with correct odds worse case scenario. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] variance
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#6
07-27-2006, 11:31 AM
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Re: Pair of Ladies ... How do you handle them?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Hello my 2+2 Mentors... Did I play bad here? What would you do? BB is 50/3 MP is 22/6 I've been playing my usual 18/9 game. .5/1 NL Full Ring $100NL BB is Short about $54 I've got $100 MP has $100 Everyone folds to MP who bets $4 I get QQ in the Hijack (Position 6) I raise to $16, Normally I'd raise to about $12 but this table is deliciously loose and I want to isolate the 50/3 in the big blind. Folded to the BB 50/3 calls 16 cold MP 22/6 Min Raises.... to $28 ??? [/ QUOTE ] I figure I'm getting 5 to 1, And I think I want an overcall from the loose BB 50/4. So I call for $12. BB 50/4 Pushes his stack in... Raises to $54. MP calls ... It's $26 to me. There is 54+54+28= $132 in the pot plus blinds. Again I'm getting 5 to 1 with QQ???? I figure even if he has AA, I'm still only about a 5 to 1 dog... And the loose BB provides an overlay... What would you do???? [/ QUOTE ] I figure I'm behind at this point... I'm thinking 5 to 1 pay off. I call for $26 Pot is now $163 Flop comes T87r MP 22/6 bets $20 What do you do?
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