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Old 07-24-2006, 10:10 AM
Bubbles Bubbles is offline
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Default .25/.50 SH: TP + FD = turn push

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($74.70)
<font color="#C00000">Bubbles ($52)</font>
CO ($25.05)
Button ($46.25)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($49.50)</font>
BB ($92.70)

Preflop: Bubbles is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Bubbles raises to $2.5</font>, CO calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $2.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($8.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, Bubbles calls $3, CO calls $3.

Turn: ($17.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Bubbles raises to $17</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $28, Bubbles raises all-in for $29.50
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:12 PM
Delphin Delphin is offline
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Default Re: .25/.50 SH: TP + FD = turn push

I don't think he's going anywhere, and it seems likely you don't have the best hand. I think calling his 3bet and folding the river UI is better than pushing here. You have the immediate odds to call his raise for your flush draw alone.
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Old 07-24-2006, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 SH: TP + FD = turn push

I would raise more if I was going to raise the turn - 36 would be a PSR so I guess you could just push - but I can also see an argument for just calling the turn getting great odds in position.
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Old 07-24-2006, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 SH: TP + FD = turn push

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I would raise more if I was going to raise the turn - 36 would be a PSR so I guess you could just push - but I can also see an argument for just calling the turn getting great odds in position.

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Old 07-24-2006, 01:58 PM
Vinny80 Vinny80 is offline
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Default Re: .25/.50 SH: TP + FD = turn push

I think I like a call on the turn. My guess is that sb has AJ-AK and you need to catch your flush (or a ten) to take down the pot. If you ever catch your flush (runner-runner) not a lot of villain will fold your allin bet on the river with a 30$ pot already...
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Old 07-24-2006, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 SH: TP + FD = turn push

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I would raise more if I was going to raise the turn - 36 would be a PSR so I guess you could just push - but I can also see an argument for just calling the turn getting great odds in position.

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I agree the original raise needs to be larger. You want to have some fold equity. Raising 11 in a pot that already has $30 isn't accomplishing much.

As played though, once 3bet I think calling is better than pushing. I think you can fold the river if you don't improve and when you do, I don't think you'll have much trouble getting villain to put the rest of the money in.
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Old 07-24-2006, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: .25/.50 SH: TP + FD = turn push

Thank you, all of you. I knew I messed up bigtime, which is why I posted the hand.
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