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80% probability, 20% psychology 31 50.82%
100% probability 3 4.92%
50% probability, 50% psychology 16 26.23%
20% probability, 80% psychology 11 18.03%
100% psychology 0 0%
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:36 PM
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FF,

Good to hear some feedback from someone who has actually played with many of these tourney legends in WSOP tourneys.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:36 PM
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I think this is where the misunderstandinhg comes from. Some of the people Diablo omitted might have had success in non-hold'em events, but that wouldn't matter in discussion of greatest tournament player of all time since success in non-hold'em events is really more a matter of luck than skill so shouldn't factor into the equation. That's why the list is only all the people who have had a lot of HOLD'EM success.

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Am I being had?

Is my sarcasm-meter broken?
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:36 PM
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I want to vote for Steve Dannenman and Chris Moneymaker then. Oh, and Robert Varkonyi would be my choice for best of all time.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:37 PM
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This is a pretty good poll, but I don't see the need to diferentiate between best tourney player and best player period... why else do we have tournaments, if not to determine who is the best?...

Therefore Madsen is the GOAT, and not just tournaments, period!
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:37 PM
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lol. This is a joke..no stuey. Hands down the best tournament player ever.


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True enough... Stu Ungar. And Ivey has 5 bracelets in 4 different games I believe.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:38 PM
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FF,

Good to hear some feedback from someone who has actually played with many of these tourney legends in WSOP tourneys.

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Diablo,

I actually have played with both John Gale and phill Hellmuth in the last week and each time I was sitting with one of them, Gale had way more chips relative to average than did Hellmuth. Maybe that should clarify this debate some.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:38 PM
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T,

Not sure how many times I need to repeat myself, but I will say it for you one more time:

Madsen: Proven WSOP championship material, perhaps greatest WSOP performance in history already, just one month into his tourney pro poker career.

Cunninham: Never heard of this so-called Allen Cunninham

Harrington: Great author, but I am focused on legendary tourney PLAYERS in this thread.

Ivey: One of the great poker players of all-time, but a cash games player, not a tournament player.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:39 PM
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who cares about all those old tournaments?... those fogeys like reese wouldn't have a prayer in a big ol' field like we have now..

Madsen for President!
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:39 PM
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El D

I think you forgot Mark Seif, he won 2 bracelets last year like in a week. Also, you should consider Men the Master, he has won like 3452 $100 Crazy Pinapple tournaments in LA.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:40 PM
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FF: I think we will see a lot from Gale, but I think he is just beginning to cement his legend as the poll results reflect.

CC: I added Stuey to the poll.

imso: If you think Dannenman, Varkonyi, and Moneymaker measure up to the legends in this poll, you have absolutely no clue about tournament poker.
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