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Old 07-20-2006, 08:31 AM
oyvindgee oyvindgee is offline
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Default NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

I feel I could get away if I had a read saying villain was decent, but I know nothing. The drawy board convinced me to call, but I'm not sure it's a draw often enough. And yeah, I know my raise on the flop should be slightly bigger, I messed up with the slider.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($207.20)
BB ($321.70)
UTG ($63.40)
MP ($213.30)
CO ($211.80)
Hero ($204.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $6, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($21) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $10</font>, CO calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $42</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $205.8</font>, Hero calls $156.35 (All-In).

Turn: ($435.15) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($435.15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $435.15
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:34 AM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

If villain were decent I would be even more likely to call. This is like the most draw-heavy board possible, folding would be terrible.
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:36 AM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

has anyone seen a call-reraise semibluff?

this is always nuts in my experience. if they were gonna raise they would do it first time around.

i probably still call
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Old 07-20-2006, 08:37 AM
lilsewon lilsewon is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

I'd say there's a 70% chance ur beat...but you can definitely fill up. So I wouldn't fault folding or calling.
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:00 AM
deucedeuce00 deucedeuce00 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

The way the action went would make me think about folding....but I still probably call.
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:03 AM
all_in_lam all_in_lam is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

this is foldable actually. not because we are almost up against a straight or higher set, but when we arent we arent a very big favourite.

i.e. calling is -EV
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:08 AM
FGators FGators is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

I fold this. this is like 85% of the time a straight and for the other times it isnt we are beat by middle set.
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:55 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

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has anyone seen a call-reraise semibluff?


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Yes.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:17 AM
EvanJC EvanJC is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

i think you played it well. you probably would have heard from co preflop if he had 99 or 1010 - it looks more like a flush draw. that said, i'd raise utgs preflop open a little more than half the time.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:28 AM
MYNAMEIZGREG MYNAMEIZGREG is offline
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Default Re: NL200 - I really want to fold bottom set

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i think you played it well. you probably would have heard from co preflop if he had 99 or 1010 - it looks more like a flush draw. that said, i'd raise utgs preflop open a little more than half the time.

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I disagree. A lot of people don't 3bet 99, and some might call UTG raise with TT from a tight player. Secondly, 3betting 77 over two people when you obviously have set value is terrible.
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