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Old 07-18-2006, 10:28 PM
Robb Robb is offline
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Default 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

BB is a tight full ring regular from 10/20 NL. Don't think I've ever seen him show a full out bluff and he doesn't semi-bluff very often, preferring to check/call. He's not afraid to bet his strong hands but essentially is pretty straight forward. Opponent probably views me on the lag side but not crazy. I don't have the hand history for this.

Folded to me in the SB with KK and I just complete. BB checks.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I check-raise his flop bet of 70 to 140 and he calls. At this point I think his most likely hand is
1.an 8 or 7 looking to hit his kicker and if not he'll dump
the turn.
2. open-ender

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I lead for 200 he raises to 450 and I just call.
He definitely doesn't have an open-ender. I see a set/A7/A8/AK. I think if I reraise the turn he dumps A7/A8 and possibly AK but probably not. AK is probably less likely given the lack of a preflop raise, not to mention it's the case King. Anyway, I may have made a mistake by just calling.

River: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I push for 4700 into a pot of 1280.

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Old 07-18-2006, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

You suck.... baby.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

CR river. Or put more money in on the turn. I wouldn't worry about someone folding A7/A8 if you reraise on the turn in a HU blinds battle. If I put him on A7 I go allin on the turn because an 8 or K just shuts him down.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

wow i would 3-bet the turn as played thus far, two pair never folds here, ever.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

pf/flop combination is great thumbs up
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

it's never right to try to trap someone there with a big hand?
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

NLFool
Yeah, CR river is good. I guess I pushed because it's likely he has a full house which he will call. But if he has AK he probably doesn't call the push. I say probably because sometimes people get suspicious to the overbet or maybe I pegged his postflop tendencies incorrectly.

But if I check river he definitely puts 700-1000 out there with top two. Good point.

The more I think about it the more I think 3 betting the turn is wrong though. A flop cr and turn 3 bet on my part is pretty strong.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

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it's never right to try to trap someone there with a big hand?

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only if you c/miniraise the flop once you hit top set
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

i agree the flop play is bad, just wondering about preflop.
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Old 07-18-2006, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 KK in SB vs tighty

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pf/flop combination is great thumbs up

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I understand it is NL 101: limp pf, min cr flop. "Oh donk has a hand". Except he's played with me before and probably thinks I'm tricky (tricky bad or tricky good who knows) so probably wouldn't narrow my hand range to a monster.

If he wasn't tight I would have lead or cr'd fairly big.

But honestly his small bet froze me and I just thought "Don't play it straight forward." Maybe min cr sucked. dunno.
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