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Old 07-18-2006, 08:44 AM
TomC TomC is offline
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Default Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

Ok, so here's my second post. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Trying to improve my game finally - I've read around these parts that you should raise if first in at 6max and generally I do this, most hands I play I raise with when first in. Questions is - should I really be raising 100% of my hands?

Is it not better to limp with some hands to improve the chance of getting action with your hand?

e.g. - UTG +1 and i have 22. Is this really a raising hand?

Surely, a) i want to see the flop as cheap as possible and b) i want as many people in as possible so that when I do hit my hand (222) I can make as much money as possible?

The above logic could also be applied to suited aces (trying to hit the flush) although I do tend to raise those.

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T
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:51 AM
tufat23 tufat23 is offline
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Default Re: Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

6-max i raise 22+ UTG. i however don't like ATo.

in the past i would always raise coming in, but if i don't think i'll get punished i've been considering some metagame limps from ep with 98s etc.

22 you have fold equity, widens what they can put you on and if you hit your set vs TPTK you can make good $$. if you limp its very unlikely you stack anyone
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

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e.g. - UTG +1 and i have 22. Is this really a raising hand?

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It's table dependant. The more likely your opponents are to fold the blinds and allow you to win with a CB the more likely you are to raise pre.

I seem to remember a HSNL reg posting here saying he never limped, but this may well be better in his 2knl games for the reasons i stated above.

The other problem with limping good implied odds hands is it will make you easier to read by an observant opponent, unless you mix it up by limp re-raising,so it also depends on how observant your opponents are.

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i want as many people in as possible so that when I do hit my hand (222) I can make as much money as possible?

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People are less likely to go broke in an unraised pot with a hand you beat.

If you want to find more by searching, make sure you use the "-re" to exclude replies (i didnt when i first started here).
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

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Surely, a) i want to see the flop as cheap as possible and b) i want as many people in as possible so that when I do hit my hand (222) I can make as much money as possible?

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"because you have an equity edge, because it makes you harder to read, because flopping a set in a raised pot>>flopping a set in a limped pot, because raising is more fun, because you can't win the blinds by limping, and probably some other reasons I'm not thinking of..."

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Old 07-18-2006, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

There's a good post in MSNL about this. Right now F-Gators is making an anthology which has a link to this post, yuo'll find it on the front page.
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:58 AM
TomC TomC is offline
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Default Re: Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

Ok - cheers guys.

I take the point about being easy to read but the limits I play no one seems to notice...

I'll have a search around for related threads.

Cheers

T
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

So you think it's more of a +EV play raising pf w/ 22 UTG, than just folding it pf?

Just say you raise 22 UTG, and are reraised by a LAG from CO or Button, do you just smooth call his raise or reraise or fold?

Thanks
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Should I always raise when first in (6max)?

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If you want to find more by searching, make sure you use the "-re" to exclude replies (i didnt when i first started here).

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OMG you just made the search function a little less rubbish! NH!
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