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Old 07-12-2006, 11:39 PM
tailspin4540 tailspin4540 is offline
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Default KK in BB: Control my speed

No meaningful stats, but CO has gotten frisky in the last few hands.

1. Too fast at the beginning?
2. Too slow at the end?
3. What does MP1 have? I suspect I may have cracked his aces but who knows.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $17.13
UTG+1: $13.50
UTG+2: $36.25
MP1: $11.25
MP2: $25.39
MP3: $21.50
CO: $42.63
Button: $24
SB: $49
Hero: $21.25

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises</font>, 2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (18.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.75BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (19.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 23.75BB
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:40 PM
ImprovinNewbie ImprovinNewbie is offline
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Default Re: KK in BB: Control my speed

i think cap thhe river. what are you afraid of?
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:44 PM
citizenwind citizenwind is offline
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Default Re: KK in BB: Control my speed

With MP1 capping, it seems like a good time for a c/r to trap the field.

Turn is fine.

3-bet the river. It's hard to put your opponent on a straight draw given the action, and you're more than likely good. If you got busted, so be it.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:50 PM
SirBobSaget SirBobSaget is offline
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Default Re: KK in BB: Control my speed

Why did you donk into the preflop capper on the flop?

No one with decent outs is leaving on the flop, even if faced with 2 bets. So I would feel its more beneficial to disguise your hand a little, wait for a non diamond turn card to really turn it up.


My line would have been to check call the flop and check raise the turn.

As played re-raise the river.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:51 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: KK in BB: Control my speed

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No meaningful stats, but CO has gotten frisky in the last few hands.

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That's not really a meaningful read, either. What does "gotten frisky" signify?

If it means that he's loosened up preflop but is still only pressing with solid made hands post, then your line is fine. (There is a straight on the board, folks, and he knows by the betting that you don't have a better piece of it than he does.)

If it means that he's been over-playing his hands in an effort to push people off pots with air or non-nut made hands, then by all means 3-bet the river and call a cap.

If you just put that in there to have something to say, then you should use a default line and 3-bet and call the cap. Your hand's too strong to not get your money in on the off chance that an unknown Villan cold-called twice preflop with 96.

(Oh, and btw, MP1 did no have aces.)
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Old 07-14-2006, 02:20 AM
tailspin4540 tailspin4540 is offline
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Default Re: KK in BB: Control my speed

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No meaningful stats, but CO has gotten frisky in the last few hands.

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That's not really a meaningful read, either. What does "gotten frisky" signify?

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If it means that he's been over-playing his hands in an effort to push people off pots with air or non-nut made hands, then by all means 3-bet the river and call a cap.


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It's closest to this: he'd loosened up and started raising and playing more pots, losing one at showdown and driving everyone out on a couple of previous hands. Not the type, from what I saw, that would bother with 96 PF.

My river call was born of "WTF did you raise me on that river card for?" confusion. I never said I was good at this game. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Results: CO had A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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