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Old 07-13-2006, 08:12 PM
jjigglers jjigglers is offline
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Default Sometimes a bigger bet has less FE than a smaller bet

Just letting you guys know. I've seen overbet pushes frequently on PP and on 2+2 and it's so obviously a draw that you can call them light. Either play your big hands this way or play your big draws like a big hand.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:17 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Sometimes a bigger bet has less FE than a smaller bet

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Just letting you guys know. I've seen overbet pushes frequently on PP and on 2+2 and it's so obviously a draw that you can call them light. Either play your big hands this way or play your big draws like a big hand.

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I beleive most 2+2ers advocate fast-playing sets/two-pair, so I'm not sure what you mean.

I haven't seen a lot of 2+2ers that advocate slowplaying sets but b/3b-pushing draws.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Sometimes a bigger bet has less FE than a smaller bet

How can you call them light? Even if they just have a big draw you are a dog with 1 pair
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Old 07-14-2006, 12:07 AM
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How can you call them light? Even if they just have a big draw you are a dog with 1 pair

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Calling light as in usually a big draw is 50/50 vs. a pair, and with all the dead money, it's a +EV call.

I'm talking about a 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] flop holding A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and overbet-push raising (or re-raising) on the flop.
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Old 07-14-2006, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes a bigger bet has less FE than a smaller bet

In those cases, if you push, you don't want the fold equity ... if you have an EV+

But, the caller has to be very careful. It's not an easy call by any means ...

Phil gordon demonstrates it in his book. Say you overbet/"overraise" all in 75% of the time with a draw, and 25% with a made premium hand, the other player can't call you if you push at the right moment, even with some gutshot str8 draws. The other player has an EV- on the long term.

Check p245 of his book for more details ...
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