Venetian $500,000 Freeroll (For poker players or casino high rollers)

[JohnnyQuad]

I have just finished logging my 150 hours of play to qualify for the freeroll tournement. On my last day I was talking to another player at the table that told me some disturbing rummors and statements that he had heard. The first was a conversation that he personally over heard between a floorperson and a $40-80 player. Apparently the player was telling the floorman that he did not think he was going to make the total hours needed to qualify for the freeroll tournement. The floorperson then responded that if he was close they would let him in anyway. How fare is that to the people that put in all of the hours required for this promotion?

The next thing he told me that he had heard was even more disturbing. He said he had heard rummors that the casino might invite high rollers from the casino and let them into the tournement with out playing any hours to qualify at all.

I thought this promotion was created to help the room build a solid base of players. What are they saying to these players if they allow the casinos high rollers to come in and have a shot at this money without playing the hours they required the rest of us to play?

If anyone else has heard anything like this please share it with the rest of us.

[Nalapoint1]

You qualified. Now would you rather play against other skilled poker players or high rollers that play black jack, roullete, craps, slots and other games?

[psandman]

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You qualified. Now would you rather play against other skilled poker players or high rollers that play black jack, roullete, craps, slots and other games?

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He would rather play against fewer opponenents.nd since these "High rollers" would be in addition to the poker players, he doesn't want them in his free roll.

[blendedsuit]

you should be jumping for joy playing against players from blackjack, craps, and other games. this is what poker tables need. quit your complaining and destroy the tourney.

[wrschultz]

No, I think you guys are missing the point. Let my try to put this another way... The TOC this year had 27 players, but let's say they made a concession to allow a few more people that are huge whales for the Bellagio. Even though they are terrible poker players, you are still losing some equity.

As to the part about higher limit players getting a free seat, this can be related to allow Johnny Chan, Phil Hellmuth, and Doyle Brunson into the 2005 TOC which clearly lowered the equity of the field who met the actual qualifying requirements.

[Nalapoint1]

When you decide to put up $500,000 for a freeroll then you can make the rules.
If you are a real man and willing to fight for principles then dont play.
Yea, just what I thought.

[mike4]

FREEROLL, it's "free"

[psandman]

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When you decide to put up $500,000 for a freeroll then you can make the rules.
If you are a real man and willing to fight for principles then dont play.
Yea, just what I thought.

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But when you announce those rules and induce people to come into your cardroom and play 150 hours there based on your stated rules, you don't get to just change the rules.

Many of the people who have played to qualify sat down before hand and figured out how many people they expected to qualify and the value of the freeroll based on that assumption. Now if they just miscalculated that is there problem, but if the reason they were mistaken about the number of players is because the Venetian is opening the event to other people (and did not state so upfront) then that is deception on the part of the Venetian.

[notevenhere]

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When you decide to put up $500,000 for a freeroll then you can make the rules.
If you are a real man and willing to fight for principles then dont play.
Yea, just what I thought.

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But when you announce those rules and induce people to come into your cardroom and play 150 hours there based on your stated rules, you don't get to just change the rules.

Many of the people who have played to qualify sat down before hand and figured out how many people they expected to qualify and the value of the freeroll based on that assumption. Now if they just miscalculated that is there problem, but if the reason they were mistaken about the number of players is because the Venetian is opening the event to other people (and did not state so upfront) then that is deception on the part of the Venetian.

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What makes you think the rules were changed? Every single promotion in history of mankind has a disclaimer akin to the following:

*Terms of promotion subject to change. We reserve the right to change the terms of the promotion as necessary.

[Sponger.]

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When you decide to put up $500,000 for a freeroll then you can make the rules.
If you are a real man and willing to fight for principles then dont play.
Yea, just what I thought.

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What are you 12 years old? Who talks like this?