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Old 07-12-2006, 12:27 PM
jwlam jwlam is offline
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One gambling lobbyist said he thought it unlikely that Kyl could get unanimous consent to bring the House bill up on the Senate floor and would be forced to try to attach it to another piece of legislation. The lobbyist added that Democrats might be reluctant to give Kyl a victory going into fall as he faces a competitive race against Democratic challenger Jim Pederson.

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Check it out. They're all playing poker and dont even realize it.
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Old 07-12-2006, 12:33 PM
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Mr. Pederson, Kyl's democratic opponent, was a large underdog in the early going, has gained some ground in the polls

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Tradesports still has it as Kyl 90%, Pederson 10% without much movement on the odds of winning.

One could only hope though. Zogby has the race 48.4% Kyl and Pederson 41.7%.

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Old 07-12-2006, 12:34 PM
Nate tha\\\' Great Nate tha\\\' Great is offline
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In a Statement of Administration Policy, the White House said it supports the House bill even though it has unspecified concerns with the measure and "looks forward to working with Congress to strengthen and improve this legislation."

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What does this part mean? I've heard similar things in a couple of other places.
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Old 07-12-2006, 12:38 PM
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which online site will be the first to put odds on this bill passing in the senate?
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Old 07-12-2006, 12:40 PM
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Tradesports still has it as Kyl 90%, Pederson 10% without much movement on the odds of winning.

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ROFL.

How incorrigible do you have to be to use betting lines for political analysis?
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Old 07-12-2006, 12:48 PM
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Why couldnt PP use a 3rd party payment system, such as PayPal?
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Old 07-12-2006, 12:51 PM
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Online gambling outfits, all of which are located offshore, have not been publicly active in lobbying...

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I'm confused. Why haven't they been publicly lobbying?

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A very few have.

But most are very short sighted and cheap, or broke. You'd be stunned how many places that all claim to be big won't pony up $5,000 a month towards a collective effort.
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Old 07-12-2006, 01:11 PM
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Why couldnt PP use a 3rd party payment system, such as PayPal?

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I'm not sure I understand the question - Do you mean for political donations?
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Old 07-12-2006, 01:39 PM
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Neteller/firepay etc. are all 'third party' payment options. I don't know anyone though that uses them for anything but poker. Paypal could be an option, I guess
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Old 07-12-2006, 01:39 PM
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On Tuesday, the National Indian Gaming Association announced its opposition to the bill, saying that it contained carve-outs for the horse-racing industry and state lotteries. But the House measure would not directly affect Indian tribes. The Leach-Goodlatte bill would not change the way states and Indian tribes regulate gambling and allows them to make online gambling legal within their borders if they found a "secure and effective" way to verify the location and age of the gambler.

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This is very interesting to me. So United States Indian tribes are ALLOWED to open up and run online gambling sites? This is a very good thing I would think. I hope they open some up soon. And I'm sure the Mirage people will then say, if the Indians can have an online site, well then why the hell can't we?

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Anyone can offer internet gambling, as long as they have a license from the state where they're offering it.

No internet casino has a license from any US state to offer any kind of gambling inside any US state - which is why internet gambling is illegal in the US.

If MGM got a license from Nevada to offer internet games to people in Nevada, it would be legal for them to offer internet games to people in Nevada.

That's true regardless of 4411.

It does not have such a license, which is why it would be illegal for them to do it.

That's true regardless of 4411.

Party doesn't have a license either. But Party doesn't give a rip, because they're in Gibraltar, and they can violate US gaming laws (they believe - probably rightly) with impunity.

Party does care about 1144, because it makes it at least slightly more dangerous for them to continue to do what they've been doing.

But I'm willing to bet they'll continue doing it anyway.

The reason foreign companies offer internet gambling in the US, is because they can safely ignore US gambling law. US companies don't offer it, because they can't.
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