Q-Q pre and post flop quandry

[Mr. Mojo31]

As this is my first strategy post, please bare with me.

B&M $100-$200 NL $2-$5 blinds. Hero only sat for one orbit and had no reads.
Hero's Stack - $220
Villain's Stack - $270ish

UG Hero is dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Hero Raises to $25.
Folds around to villain in the BB.
Villain raises to $75. Call - Push - Fold?
Hero Calls.
Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB pushes.
Call? Fold?

Hero folded.

I feel like pushing preflop would have been the optimum play. Also, I felt BB was making a move, but hadn't ever played with him b/f and didn't trust my insticts. As the hand unfolded, I feel like it was played very weak.

Thoughts?

[Lucky]

As it is, fold flop.

But dont get over a third of your stack in PF without planning to get it in on flop, so PF play is where problem is.

I prob fold PF, unless hes big donk; then i prob get it in PF.

[Leptyne]

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As it is, fold flop.

But dont get over a third of your stack in PF without planning to get it in on flop, so PF play is where problem is.

I prob fold PF, unless hes big donk; then i prob get it in PF.

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Clearly the problem is calling PF with 1/3 of your stack. There isn't any room for a re-raise so its either push or fold. In the "long run" you'll be ahead to push. I think this early in the game I'm folding.

[Sephus]

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I prob fold PF, unless hes big donk; then i prob get it in PF.

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[ahnuld]

I push preflop becuase you have 40bb and I like to gamble early on to get a stack for the rest of the night. If this is nearing the end of your session and he isnt a tard I fold though.

[Sephus]

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I push preflop becuase you have 40bb and I like to gamble early on to get a stack for the rest of the night.

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depending on other stack sizes at the table i think this can be quite legit reasoning. now you've got me leaning toward pushing.

[Aloysius]

Mr.Mojo - this type of situation occurs a lot at B&M NL, where the blinds are high. I'm just repeating Ahnuld below for the most part, but it comes up alot for me so wanted to emphasize the points he made.

At most B&M games I've played at this level, you are ahead in this spot most of the time and pushing is the optimal play. With no read though, how much do you want to gamble? If you'd prefer to wait for a better spot based on BR considerations, get better reads etc., I'd fold.

But this is a pre-flop push or fold spot.

Paul Phillips has also written extensively on the topic of looking to "gamble" early in a session and double / triple-up quickly to get a stack at these stakes NL cash games.

-Al

[ChicagoVince]

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I push preflop becuase you have 40bb and I like to gamble early on to get a stack for the rest of the night. If this is nearing the end of your session and he isnt a tard I fold though.

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nh.

[Mr. Mojo31]

Thanks everybody. I really appreciate it.

[iash]

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Paul Phillips has also written extensively on the topic of looking to "gamble" early in a session and double / triple-up quickly to get a stack at these stakes NL cash games.


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Any links to these writings? I'm very interested.