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Old 07-11-2006, 02:22 PM
Heine Heine is offline
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Default OOP w/ over pair and FD

Villian is 42/20/1.8

I always rebuy but the next hand started too fast so thats why i don't have a full stack.

Villian will bet when checked to on the turn.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $25
UTG+1: $50.40
CO: $5.65
Button: $47.15
Hero: $19.80
BB: $23.54

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.4</font>, BB calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.3, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9.3, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $4.13</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ??? </font>

Results:
Final pot: $17.56


Is this a good time for a c/r AI? Any other comments?
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:31 PM
sluggger5x sluggger5x is offline
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

I like a push here. Your opponent called in position, which means he could have top or even middle pair (A9, K9 etc.), and he is just betting off your weakness on the turn check. It should have been u leading that $4 bet on the turn though...
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

Ok, so if i push here. Aren't i only getting called by better hands? i.e. sets, made flush and the straight? Or do you think i have enough FE with just the naked A:daimond: ?

Wouldn't leading just create an opportunity for villian betting and being pushing me off the possible best hand and denying me odds to draw to the nut flush?
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

thing is, I think he folds if you lead out on the turn and he only has a pair. W/ the c/r ai, at least you get his bet and you also put him in a very tough spot if he has two pair or something.
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

Leading the turn with the Ad in your hand is much better imo. But of course BB just made his/her straight flush, so you're crushed.
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

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Ok, so if i push here. Aren't i only getting called by better hands? i.e. sets, made flush and the straight? Or do you think i have enough FE with just the naked A:daimond: ?

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A better hand folds to a CRAI here 0.000000012% of the time.
And you obviously want worse hands to call.
A typical villain will usually only raise a lead with better hands,
and will call with lots of worse hands.

Lead and pray he only minraises if ahead.
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

Check-raising when the third diamond falls might kill the action. Call and lead the river with a value bet of 1/4 pot or something.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:17 PM
whiteladder81 whiteladder81 is offline
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

I might be a little bit of a station but I like a c/c on turn and blank river which atleast gives my opponent to bet a weaker holding. I think a c/r ai minimizes your value and the only hands that might call that u beat is 9kd but even that is doubtful.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:42 PM
ThePortuguee ThePortuguee is offline
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Default Re: OOP w/ over pair and FD

Check/raise is terrible. Stack sizes are awkward though, since you cant really call this bet then block the river with intention to fold to a raise.

I think the only thing you can do is bet the turn and fold to a raise.
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