Value Bet River or Check?

toybux · #1 07-10-2006, 03:55 AM

No strong reads on either player in this hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($47.65)
UTG ($54.85)
UTG+1 ($192.55)
UTG+2 ($46.03)
MP1 ($74.03)
MP2 ($31.20)
MP3 ($32.80)
Hero ($50)
Button ($51.70)
SB ($53.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
6 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $1.5, Button calls $2, SB (poster) calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($6.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $4.

Turn: ($18.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, Button calls $12, SB calls $12.

River: ($54.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero...?

Well, the only draw that could have been calling just got there. I have $32 left behind. Does one of these two callers usually have a flushdraw here? Or is this all I can eat?

As another quesiton, what do you think of my betsizes?

MiJ305 · #2 07-10-2006, 04:04 AM

i'll probably bet a lil more on the turn something like 15..all the other bets are fine... ,without any reads i cant be too sure on what the other players have but one of them probably has the flush, ill still fire at the pot ..maybe a 12$ bet or less if i get raised i could let it go

Thoth · #3 07-10-2006, 04:05 AM

I'm not betting here with 2 opponents and one yet to act. It seems very likely that someone had the FD now that they both come along for 2 streets.

Preflop is fine except for posting. Flop bet is a little small. With 2 opponents I like to make slightly higher cbets than HU.

On the turn I would pot it. There are 2 potential FD's out there. When one of them calls the other almost has direct odds to call.

toybux · #4 07-10-2006, 04:40 AM

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Preflop is fine except for posting.

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Really? I like posting in the CO cause then I see 7 hands for 1BB whereas waiting till the BB to post gets you 10 hands for 1.5BB. CO posting is 0.14BB/hand and BB posting is 0.15BB/hand for the orbit, so posting in the CO is actually +EV. Past that it is no good though!

lacrymosa · #5 07-10-2006, 05:38 AM

I like bet fold, and betting more on the turn

toybux · #6 07-10-2006, 06:47 AM

Betting more on the turn makes sense, but how can we possibly bet/fold into a $54 pot with $32 behind?