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Old 07-08-2006, 05:24 PM
Paul Levy Paul Levy is offline
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Default Very annoying behavior (longish)

Same card room as my previous posts. $200 freezout, this time there are dealers at the tables.

Questions:

1) It turns out that there are two kinds of yellow chips, some newer ones and some older, slightly discolored ones. There's this guy sitting on my right (let's call him Doushe), who for several hands in a row reaches across the table and into the pot (the blinds are yellow at the moment) to swap his discolored yellows for the bright ones.

Would this be normally allowed at most establishments?

2) Most of the times, when he mucks his hand he stands up and walks a few yards away to fiddle with his mobile or do whatever the hell, only to come back running when the new hand is dealt, holding onto the table while he jumps into his seat (which I obviously find annoying as hell).
On the rare occurrences when he doesn't leave the table, Doushe tries a trick where he throws a chip on the table with a backward spin so that it flips back to him, but he's not very good at it so a couple of times the chip rolls over across the table into some other player's stack.

Would this chip throwing be normally tolerated? Would a player be entitled to ask for the chip that's been thrown at him to be put in the next hand's pot instead of returning it to Doushe?

3) The first time he's on the button he goes "oh, I'm on the button, so I might raise the blinds, I just wanted to let the table know".
I turn to him and say "that might be considered binding". He makes a funny face and says "ah, ok, then I'll stand by that and raise".
Utg raises and Doushe reraises, utg goes all in, Doushe calls and his queens lose to a flopped ace.

Say he had trash instead of queens. How would such an out of turn declaration be enforced in that case, given that the blinds had been raised already?

For what it's worth, the dealer didn't open his mouth in front of any of this.
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:47 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

Here's your line:

"QUIT BEING SUCH A F-ING DOUCHE!"
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

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(let's call him Doushe)


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LOL


He wouldnt have had to raise, I dont see a floor person enforcing that as binding due to the fact that it was said when action was not on him
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:09 PM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

1) Players may not touch the pot.

2) People do tricks with their chips all the time. If he's out of control, the dealer should probably ask him to stop. At no point does he lose chips just because he loses control of them.

3) This may not be universal, but in most rooms, action out of turn is not binding.
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Old 07-08-2006, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

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2) People do tricks with their chips all the time. If he's out of control, the dealer should probably ask him to stop. At no point does he lose chips just because he loses control of them.

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good thing too, every time I try a chip trick they spew.
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

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this time there are dealers at the tables.

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If by "dealers" you mean people who shuffle and deal the cards, yes, they're dealers.

If by "dealers" you mean people who are charged with enforcing the rules of poker, no sir, those are no dealers.
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

hmm, guy reaching into the pot. march right over to the craps table, grab the stick from the stickman and whack dr douchebag over the head with it.

but, yeah, players can't touch the pot.
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Old 07-09-2006, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

i don't get the last point.. he said he MIGHT raise the blinds
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Old 07-09-2006, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Very annoying behavior (longish)

People who annoy me at a poker table:

80% of the people who don't sit there and play their cards.
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Old 07-09-2006, 05:22 AM
Paul Levy Paul Levy is offline
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i don't get the last point.. he said he MIGHT raise the blinds

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Yes he tried to imply it without stating it in full.

See question #3 in this old thread for a guy who shot a similar angle - the comments in that case leaned towards binding declaration.
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