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Old 07-06-2006, 11:40 PM
aba20 aba20 is offline
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Default 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

I am a PLO newbie so comments on all streets are welcome. Villian just took a very bad beat on another table so he may be tilting but I am not sure. He is also very aggressive.


Cryptologic
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4367.26
UTG+1: $12514
CO: $326.32
Button: $6446
Hero: $4156.46
BB: $4072.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $70</font>, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($280, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($280, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $215</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $925</font>, 2 folds,

Hero calls down or folds?
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

Don't call the turn raise if you aren't calling the river. He either has the nuts (though probably wouldn't play the straight flush that hard but might if he is tricky and wanted to build a really big pot), or is putting a move on with only the naked A. As you have no redraws to a boat you need to make the decision on the turn because he isn't letting off the gas just because you call.
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Old 07-06-2006, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

ok edited it
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

The fact that 2 other people folded doesn't change the situation with villain, and in fact makes it more likely he has what he is representing as 2 others were yet to act. So decide whether he has you beat or is putting on a move with the naked A or maybe even a set.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

Fold and then beg to see his hand. If he has the straight flush, he'll be all giddy and show it either way.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

1. You're a PLO newbie and are playing 10/20? Seems a little stupid.

2. In this hand, I bet the flop. If I get called on the flop, i check call the turn and river.

As played, I'll call the turn and make sure I hit the Qd on the river. Without info on the villain it's hard to know if we're ahead or behind here.

I probably call though.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

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1. You're a PLO newbie and are playing 10/20? Seems a little stupid.


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2k is nothing to aba
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Old 07-08-2006, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

I think you have to fold here. Without any further info on BB, you have to give him credit for the nut flush. Clearly, he has either the nut flush or the lone ranger. If he has the nut flush, the round of checking on the flop makes him believe that his pot raise is more likely to be called, and explains his raise. If he has the lone ranger, he knows that the round of checking makes it more likely he is called. With the lone ranger, if he is called, he is going to have to pot the river as well. Its a major commitment. Unless you know this guy i would lay it down to the turn raise and move on.

(I seriously doubt he raises the straight flush here. The chances that (a) he has it, and (b) he plays it like that, mean i would almost ignore the possibility)
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Old 07-08-2006, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

Fold often here.
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Old 07-11-2006, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 pounds: Am I supposed to fold?

Check the turn, although you likely have the best hand, you're only going to win money from someone bluffing right now. Check calling is fine, but betting out and getting raised means you have to fold here.
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