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Old 07-07-2006, 08:57 AM
TheStandman TheStandman is offline
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Default Collusion

Are there articles on how to detect collusion. And how to do it yourself?

I play a lot in a real casino and sometimes notice people collude. Somtimes it costs me a lot of money. I had KK flop: AA5. I bet, raise, rerase, cap. I called because I know they play like this. Turn A. I bet: raise, reraise, cap behind me. I just folded because i was sure 1 of the 3 colluding guys had the ace. And I also was sure I had to pay 60 + 80 = 140 more to have a SD. Till this moment I only had 40+40+20 = 100 in the pot. I was sure enough to lay it down.

What can I do? Call the brush to check if their card are good enough to raise, reraise and cap the turn?
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Old 07-07-2006, 11:59 AM
wdead wdead is offline
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yes, call the floor. Next time, immediately at the end of a hand, before ne1 has mucked his cards and bets are calls, alert the dealer u think collusion is present and ask for a floor.
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:54 PM
Bicycles_Biatch Bicycles_Biatch is offline
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Ask to see all hands... then ask the 3 guys which one of them drove... then take not of their playing patterns.

1) Once colluders know you're on to them... they usually either stop / and-or move on to a different local.

2) If you catch their patterns, you can crush them when you hit BIG, you'll get 3 to 1 on your raises with re-raises likely.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:20 PM
Bill King Bill King is offline
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Default Re: Collusion

yeah at first its frusterating. but you really can use it against them, because all of their attention is paid upon pricing you out of the hand and working together.. when theyre really not paying attention to your hand either. so just figure what theyre doing into your hand and how you play it.

at the end of the week you'll thank them for being idiots when you have a lil extra in your pocket :-)
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