MLG hand #1: AT

[MLG]

Kramer, im never limping A10o utg. I generally fold it, or if I think the table conditions warrant, then I'll make a standard raise (either 2.5x or 3x depending on the table).

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Kramer, im never limping A10o utg. I generally fold it, or if I think the table conditions warrant, then I'll make a standard raise (either 2.5x or 3x depending on the table).

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I'm with you.

[CardSharpCook]

I've read the respones. I agree with MLG that folding is not an option. The question becomes how can we get our opponent to make a mistake? Pushing here just might get our opponent to call with a weaker ten. However, it also gives most flush draws the odds to correctly call. I think the best chance of getting our opponent to make a mistake is to call here. Let him bet into us on the turn, and push regardless.

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I think the best chance of getting our opponent to make a mistake is to call here.

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I started to go down this road and then stopped. A mistake perhaps?

However,

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Let him bet into us on the turn, and push regardless.

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You are saying there are no cards that make you re-evaluate this plan? I mean if villan barrels right through a K, or the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] you still go to the felt?

Thanks in advance.

[locutus2002]

I'd call.

Any subsequent bet is going to commit villain or hero to the pot. If hero raises, villain can escape the hand when he is behind.

Both players are going to have tough choices after many turns. Tough choices favor the player in position, followed by the better player; MLG has both advantages.

[adanthar]

I would support calling on a T62 board, but here, you're going to let a straight draw take a lot of pots away or get free cards on flush boards/vice versa too often, I think. I would also really hate calling another big bet when (for example) a J hits the turn, although KT can very well make one. So I just push now. If JJ never folds, KT doesn't fold often, either.

[JSchnett]

Its a PUSH

[madmisha]

Wouldn't we be the ones making a mistake by letting our opponent draw for free. I guess with this board it would be hard to know what a safe card is, I don't mind my opponent correctly folding in this situation.

I like waiting until the turn better, when I have a tighter range on my opponent.

[tipperdog]

Raising is obvious, IMO, the only question is whether it's all-in or something like T3,000-3,500, which leaves you with <T3,000 behind, which is obviously moving in on any turn.

Doesn't matter much.

[CardSharpCook]

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I would support calling on a T62 board, but here, you're going to let a straight draw take a lot of pots away or get free cards on flush boards/vice versa too often, I think. I would also really hate calling another big bet when (for example) a J hits the turn, although KT can very well make one. So I just push now. If JJ never folds, KT doesn't fold often, either.

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The problem is, it isn't a huge mistake for 89 to call if we push. We'd be pushing 5K into a 3.4K pot giving villian about 1.7:1 to call. It is likely, in my opinion, that he'll both miss his 16% str8 draw on the turn, and bet anyway. True, that 16% of the time, he might have correctly folded his str8 draw 50% of the time, but I think this plan gives us higher EV. Another danger is that he is bluffing QJ here.