$200->$400 NL

[berserk]

I would say there is a huge jump in skill between $200 and $400 games, and for that matter, between every different limit.

Mainly aggressiveness, but also good folds, tighter/trickier/smarter play on the whole.

I'm actually running at 0 BB/100 over 15000 hands at 3/6, 5 BB/100 at 2/4 over 23000 hands, and 11 BB/100 at 1/2 over 8000 hands.

[Morrek]

They are also more active preflop. 400NL is definitely beatable though, so just keep at it and look through hands you have trouble with, eventually you'll be better than most of them

[mkflsam]

i think the jump from 200->400 will be the toughest you've encountered so far, at least it was for me (no experience higher obv there are harder transitions).

i really didn't find much of a difference between 100/200 NL, but 400 it was quite noticeable.

still, i think 400 nl is a great place to make money and improve at the same time and is worth taking the shot and staying as long as you can. there will be players you can learn from and enough bad players to maintain a modest winrate even if you're the 3rd best player at the table.

[ArturiusX]

400>600 is by far the biggest jump.

I find 400 players are tougher, but still make huge mistakes in large pots. I play better vs 400NL players with my overall strategy, because Im more deceptive and know how to exploit table image/stacks. Try to play less cookie cutter poker and do a few things you normally wouldn't. If someone folds to much, fire bluffs, if they call to many big raises of yours, push with more marginal hands.

[Woolygimp]

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if they call to many big raises of yours, push with more marginal hands.

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excuse me?

Disregard this is bad advice, you should be doing exactly the opposite.

[NaobisDad]

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if they call to many big raises of yours, push with more marginal hands.

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excuse me?

Disregard this is bad advice, you should be doing exactly the opposite.

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I believe he is referring to the fact that if your opponents are calling you down with extremely wide ranges, there now is a lot of value in making thin value bets.

Not that you should be playing for your stack with meager holdings that rely mostly on Fold Equity for their value.

[Melchiades]

Ok. So after my first 30k hands of NL 6-max, everything is going well. Looking at my stats though I am 20/11. The good players on this board doesn't seem to have such a high difference and I feel i probably should be 20/15-16. What does this indicate? I more or less never openlimp, but I usually flatcall raises in position with pocketpairs, sc's. Should I be getting more aggresive and start threebetting these hands more in position? I'm currently playing 200NL, but if I continue like this I should start taking shots at 400NL in a couple of weeks (want a 10k BR first).

I'm happy with my winrate at this level, but I recon it cant be a coincidence that most of the better players here have 20/15 instead of 20/11'ish stats. So maybe I need to adjust before I move up?

[Jinx]

honestly I didn't notice a huge difference from 200->400. The jumps from 400->600 and the jump from 600->1000 are far bigger. Just table select better, and try to find out who the fish are at the table as soon as possible.