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$600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
i don't play these stakes, so my opinion is pretty worthless. my friend insists on the merit of his laydown and i think it's massively weak.
as hero's stack size shows, his style of play makes people think he's a little loose. hero's read is that the villain is tight w/ anything less than two pair. at $50NL and $100NL where i play, i think i can't shove my chips in fast enough. but hero rapes midstakes NL at 20BB/100 while 4-tabling, so he clearly knows more than me. opinions? for what it's worth, hero stacked villain later on in another hand w/ the nuts. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP ($617.75) Button ($1230) Hero ($1736.02) BB ($546.75) UTG ($413.05) Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3. UTG calls $6, MP calls $6, Button calls $6, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks. Flop: ($30) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $73</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB moves all-in for $540.75</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, Hero folds. Final Pot: $127 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> No showdown. </font> |
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
i would call here thinking 1.) 96 may not want to discourage action and move all-in given the lack of any apparent dominating draws 2.) top two pair, a set, or top pair + OESD would more likely try and close action 3.) there is already $200 in the pot and ~$450 more to call
in favor of a laydown 1.) villain was strong enough to check and risk giving 3 people behind him a free card 2.) he has seen a potsized raise and a 2/3 potsized reraise, yet feels compelled to 3bet all-in 3.) villain in BB makes hand read pretty difficult 4.) hero is a monster and could conceivably find better edges later on |
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
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20BB/100 while 4-tabling, so he clearly knows more than me. [/ QUOTE ] variance. As for hand, call all day. |
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
shameless bump. the argument is still unsettled. a simple "call/fold" recommendation will do. thanks!
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
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call all day [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
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[ QUOTE ] call all day [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
I will post a very similar hand where it was possible for me to get away, but in this instance you should call all day. He could have a ton of different hands.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com BB ($202) UTG ($120.20) Hero ($528.10) CO ($600.10) Button ($65.71) SB ($812.55) Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2. UTG calls $4, Hero calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks. Flop: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $20</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $125</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $65. Turn: ($290) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $250</font>, Hero calls $399.10 (All-In), SB calls $149.10. River: ($1088.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $1088.20 Results below: SB has 6d 9c (straight, nine high). Hero has 6h 4h (straight, eight high). Outcome: SB wins $1088.20. Here I got min-check-raised into the field and then pot-bet on the turn - I played this hand about two months ago. I think now I could lay it down. In your example your opponent didn't try to give away the fact that he had the nuts, he just pushed, so he could have 87, a set, an overpair - who knows. |
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
in the Op's hand i call all day.
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
Don't be a Nitty McNitterson. Please Call.
Jesus, Call. I dream of situations like this. |
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Re: $600NL: 2nd nuts on the flop (to settle an argument)
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[ QUOTE ] push your chips in the pot faster than Phil Hellmuth drawing dead [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] FYP |
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