The Hand Converter Thread.

[bisonbison]

Richard, I've added ars support, let me know how it works.

Understand that if anyone else uses the Ars format they'll be leeching your .gifs.

[Richard Berg]

Works great, thanks.

We do support HTML for all the other markup, but I was lazy when I wrote my converter converter [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Then again, keeping it somewhat proprietary to our setup is about the only way since I'm not volunteering to host icons for the whole internet. I don't think I need to worry about the bandwidth from tiny little gifs, but fair warning to all concerned: if it somehow starts costing me money, I'll add a referrer restriction.

[bisonbison]

I've been working on the converter this weekend, so I thought it was time for me to restate the known issues:

KNOWN ISSUES 1/29/05 (in rough order of how much I care about them)

0. Eurobet ugly little [Fold, Call, Raise] thing.
Yeah. Forgot about that. FIXED

1. Pokerroom HE hand histories.
Sometime in the last two months, pokerroom changed formats, breaking converter support. I have examples and an account. This is top priority.

2. Prima and Crypto Site support.
Are Prima and Crypto the same thing? I have a sufficient number of hand histories to add crypto HE ring games. The delay is entirely mine. I haven't coded it yet. I hope to do so soon.

3. Party/Affiliate Omaha Hands.
There is a known problem with the results processor for Party O/hi and O/8 hands. I did not properly take the sheer number of hand combinations into account. Once Omaha has been fixed, I will move on to Party stud, with the knowledge that a working results processor will let me fix Stud/8 in one fell swoop. This should also fix any other wierd results problems (splits when one should win etc.)

4. Party/Affiliate Stud and Stud/8 Hands.
Emailed hands are not converting properly. On-disk hands will not convert properly until Party includes all upcards. Working on e-mailed hands.

5. Party All-ins.
Party is pretty f[/i]ucking sloppy with its all-ins. It's really annoying. I may have to make the process that converts all the action in the hand deduce all-ins from stack sizes and betting action, instead of trusting the sites to provide accurate actions. This will have the side effect of making #5 easier to compute.

5. Rake.
This is a longtime request, put forth most vocally by GoT. Rake in a single-pot situation is not problematic, but every time I've tried to incorporate it into sidepots and stuff my hair catches on fire and I am distracted.

6. Paradise history problems.
General problems, private problems, sergeant problems? I don't know. Apparently paradise is also giving all-in fits.

7. Tourney antes.
Nuff said.

8. Be able to output a generic standard HH for all input sites.

9. Allow easy conversion of observed hands.
Yep.

10. Multiple Hand histories to convert at once.
Possible, low priority, will have to be implemented site by site, so expect party to come first and then others later as people complain. Do not expect party to come soon.



Okay, that's it for tonight.

[fryKing]

Just a suggestion, it seems like XML would be ideal for a "universal" hand history format...

[numb3rs]

How come this never works for NL hands? All "all-ins" just get removed. The pot values get reduced to the blinds?

***** Hand History for Game x *****
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: playerA ( $104.9 )
Seat 3: playerB ( $105.75 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $49.35 )
Seat 5: playerC ( $403 )
Seat 6: playerD ( $279.7 )
Seat 7: Villian ( $86.3 )
Seat 8: playerE ( $173 )
Seat 10: playerF ( $199 )
Seat 2: playerG ( $201 )
Seat 9: playerH ( $26 )
Hero posts small blind [$1].
playerC posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qh Ac ]
playerD folds.
Villian is all-In [$86.3]
playerE folds.
playerF folds.
playerG folds.
playerB folds.
Hero is all-In [$48.35]
playerC folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 5d, 5c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
Hero shows [ Qh, Ac ] two pairs, nines and fives.
Villian shows [ Kc, 2s ] two pairs, kings and nines.
Villian wins $36.95 from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and nines.
Villian wins $97.7 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and nines.

Converts to:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter

CO ($201)
Button ($105.75)
Hero ($49.35)
BB ($403)
UTG ($279.7)
UTG+1 ($86.3)
MP1 ($173)
MP2 ($199)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($3) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($3) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $3

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has Kc 2s (two pair, kings and nines).
Hero has Qh Ac (two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $3. </font>

[captZEEbo]

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (5.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 7.20 BB

hey bisonbison...here's some random (unimportant) glitch. It says Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 9 handed). I haven't done extensive testing, but it's weird. Not sure if it matters, but here's original data:
***** Hand History for Game 1577719320 *****
$5/$10 Hold'em - Saturday, February 12, 00:31:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 30162 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 4: fishin4cash ( $181.75 )
Seat 6: bkdorSTR8_4L ( $423.5 )
Seat 9: MajorShark ( $346.5 )
Seat 10: nitelite73 ( $1170.83 )
Seat 7: ELAPRENDIZ ( $223 )
Seat 1: cia_teddy ( $339.5 )
Seat 5: ChinaTigress ( $163 )
Seat 2: DbLmeUPman ( $144.5 )
Seat 8: ginaldo ( $78 )
ChinaTigress posts small blind [$2].
bkdorSTR8_4L posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bkdorSTR8_4L [ Kh Ks ]
ELAPRENDIZ calls [$5].
ginaldo folds.
MajorShark folds.
nitelite73 folds.
cia_teddy folds.
DbLmeUPman folds.
fishin4cash folds.
&gt;You have options at Table 12017 Table!.
nvrUmind has joined the table.
ChinaTigress folds.
bkdorSTR8_4L raises [$5].
ELAPRENDIZ calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, Jd, Qs ]
bkdorSTR8_4L bets [$5].
ELAPRENDIZ calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
bkdorSTR8_4L bets [$10].
&gt;You have options at Table 14398 (6 max) Table!.
ELAPRENDIZ calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
bkdorSTR8_4L bets [$10].
&gt;You have options at Table 14961 (6 max) Table!.
ELAPRENDIZ calls [$10].
bkdorSTR8_4L shows [ Kh, Ks ] a pair of kings.
ELAPRENDIZ doesn't show [ Qh, 6h ] a pair of queens.
bkdorSTR8_4L wins $69 from the main pot with a pair of kings.
&gt;You have options at Table 12017 Table!.

edit: Oh yes, this is from Pokernow, but I don't think it would matter.

[bisonbison]

Hey guys,

I'm just stopping by to let people know that I've taken a personal vacation from poker for the last couple of weeks.

As a result:

I have not responded to ANY PMs.
I have not done ANY work on the converter.
and
I have not played ANY hands of poker.

I just want to let people know that my lack of response is not personal at all. If Salma Hayek had tried to reach me at 2+2 over the last couple of weeks, I would not have read her note.

Some people were kind enough to contribute to the converter in this fallow period, and I feel I owe them an apology for not thanking them personally sooner. Trust that I will try to reach all of them by e-mail or whatever in the next few days.

That's it.

[FUJItheFISH]

good to see you are back.

[zephedzephed]

Ey. Pokerstars 7 card stud limit hands aren't working (Not bitching). Should I send you a few?

[zephedzephed]

Look at the second hand in this post. When you use an alias for an opponent (in this case it was Gambool) on the preflop round it appears all funky.

Here's what it says preflop:

CO :#A500AF(GAMBOOL)/ raises

Is this a bug or intentional? If it's intentional, could ya clean it up?